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STOP putting new clubs out of my reach !!!!!!!

• filmslayer 2,341 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 9:21 AM

  FFS guys , learn to effin putt ! its not the driver that makes ya better player ...

• fatdan 3,379 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 10:28 AM

  cdefghi:

  It amazes me that every time someone at a lower level asks about upgrading to a driver that will help them get a shorter club in their hands for approaches, pretty much the same gang responds, with the same line.  Basically saying, use an inferior driver than they all have- ( Courtney- special offer lvl93 R1----- Fatdan-- Lvl 100 Nike Covert--- MainzMan--- lvl 93 special offer R1--- and ScottHope--- Lvl 94 TM.

  With all due respect to all 4 of these respected posters, why is it that when someone wants what you have, you tell them to sharpen up their approaches, short game, and putting, and that don't need what you have?  My question is then, why aren't all of you using a driver that doesn't have as good of distance capabilities as the ones that you have.  Looks to me like the same old playing field that's tilted their way.  The OP's question is not out of the question IMHO, and by no means am I trying to disrespect anyone of the 4 that I just mentioned, or anyone for that matter.

  All I did was point out he was wrong about the levels and mention what was available to him/her....

  Easy answer to that question of yours, we say that because we have ALL been there, and that's the only option they have, just like when WE were in that position...and we ALL found out getting the big hitting drivers were not as important as getting a good set of longer irons with more spin and accuracy ...

  I suspect you have too, your using the SLDR instead of the 94 R11 that is rated 2yds longer and only 3 yds less than the top drivers...if you look at my clubs you will see that driver in my bag at times too in certain tournaments on certain courses because I have the 94 R11, the Nike lvl 100, and the R1 lvl 98, I use all of them too....most of the time I use the Nike and there is a LOT of holes on most courses I hit it less than full power to get where I want to be....

  these guys will find out that a good 220 yd 3i and 210 yd 4i are the nuts and that longer driver won't improve their game as much as those irons will....they will also find out the 287 drivers still don't get you there on most par 5's into a headwind like they think and that 245 BB 3 wd  in their bag  will still come in handy quit often until they figure out sometimes it just best to lay up to a wedge shot ....

  Most of all, if you don't learn to putt this whole thread is moot!!!

  With all due respect to all 4 of these respected posters, why is it that when someone wants what you have, you tell them to sharpen up their approaches, short game, and putting, and that don't need what you have?

  So we should lie to them? We say it because it's true, been there done that, master the game with whats available to you, you will get the better sh!t after you've earned it as it should be....

   

• borntobesting 9,752 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 10:45 AM

  cdefghi:

  Possibly the OP's also another honest fellow that didn't take advantage of an unfair advantage to buy better gear.

   

  No that's not really it. He just hasn't played nearly enough to level up. Since June 2009 which is 5 years or right at 5 years he has only played 624 rounds. Compare that to the 1000's of rounds that those of us who are at a higher level that him have played.

  Him 624 rounds in 5 years. Me 5,354 rounds in 4 years and 8 months.

  YJ nearly 3000 rounds and nearly 4000 more A/S matches. See where the difference is?

• pb1711 1,183 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 10:54 AM

  borntobesting:

  Since June 2009 which is 5 years or right at 5 years he has only played 624 rounds. Compare that to the 1000's of rounds that those of us who are at a higher level that him have played.

  I thought the exact same. So you the OP wants to be rewarded for hardly playing? All the players at those high levels have earned it through hours and hours of play. It would be interesting though to see how high WGT actually do make required levels for top clubs, as that is a little unfair on brand new players that are playing and advancing honestly. It takes a damn lot of rounds/MPs & A/S to get to level 100.

  I've always believed that once a player gets to legend, all items in the pro shop should unlock, definitely at tour legend.

• cdefghi 2,872 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 10:56 AM

  yeah I get it- Like my 1700 ranked rounds and countless other practice, M/P, and A/S in a year and 1/2 :-)

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 12:11 PM

  People miss their own stats in the dream land of what it is not their fault. Too harsh to look at the cold reality?? And that's away from the OPs only intermittent visits:

  If your fways in reg are not near where top players are, then what on earth is extra distance going to achieve??

  Dist to pin.  Top players are what 10 feet or even better.  If that's not near what on earth does any one expect a new driver to achieve???

  1 putts.  Really good putting starts at 50% for genuine players.  People well below expect a driver to putt for them too??? More nonsense.

  Top players stats come from many real tourneys too, no banging grass off BoF. 

  The only people I ever see really whinge about this are people that do not have good stats, but of course it must the the seldom few extra driver yards holding them back.  

  The R1 is nice don't get me wrong.  I blew my stats apart last year in August chasing the L93 black going round all 18 in par 3s.  My choice and got my reward.  Some peoples stats are still not recovered fully, but their choice and accepted as such.  Oh for the glitch back then, lol.

  Opinions may be made as it's open here, and fair enough.  The opinion about the glitch for fast XP recently being a cheat is as absolutely ridiculous as the R1 solving all the woes magically.  

  Very upstanding members of the community in this thread used that too skoot through a level or so super quick, and do what get a L97 set of irons a bit early at a level set by WGT.  That was not cheating.  Cheating is multi accounting and the rest of it.  

   

   

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 12:33 PM

  I can't see how any one can complain about what drivers there is available for them to buy at present, regardless of level.  When the majority of us got bumped up to legend tier when it was introduced a few years back we only had the R9 275 yard driver, G10 irons and tour sd balls. Or the R9 TRI with a super fast meter where you would be nervous about even hitting a wide fairway.  Please complainers, go and rent this set and compare it to the set you're probably using at present and please tell me which set you would prefer.

• rollone 783 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 1:20 PM

  Drive for show, Putt for dough

• MBaggese 15,378 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 2:11 PM

  cdefghi:

  why is it that when someone wants what you have, you tell them to sharpen up their approaches, short game, and putting, and that don't need what you have?

   

  I can answer that question....

   

  The issue soon becomes that the level 90+ TP's, Masters, etc...will then complain once they "zoom" to Legend tier and can't get the higher level irons needed to play from distance.

   

  No more Driver 64/60 degree wedge to a majority of par 4's...so now they are sitting at a level where they cannot get the R11's for 6 months plus, or the Nike irons for waaaaaaay longer, these are the same folks who say "all equipment should be opened up at Legend"....

   

  That's why experienced players offer the advice to work on the short game, etc...I never learned all the shots with wedges until I reach legend...wasn't a need to playing Driver wedge ...etc...never needed to learn how to putt when you're 5 feet from the hole, etc...

  The balls and gear available the past few years has spoiled many and put them on a fast track  to the parking lot tees.

• cappiest 1,346 Posts

  Tue, Jun 17 2014 2:52 PM

  Never ceases to amaze me how players who haven't put near the time in most of us have complain about the game and levels and equipment. Funny thing is he got his answer from several of you that pointed out the game is not about having the biggest baddest driver.

  Just like real golf actually......you want to get better, concentrate on your iron play, your chipping and especially your putting.....these are the things that make you better.......not a driver that flies 5 yards longer than the one you have.

  You have to learn how to hit the shots required and putt like a genius to be really good at this game....its really the only way. 

  DRIVE FOR SHOW AND PUTT FOR DOUGH!!!! its true here too.