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A better interface (+ retire or improve autocaddy)

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Mon, Oct 27 2014 10:04 PM

  YankeeJim:

  Heh. You two guys are doing a great job of fine tuning something WGT won't even give a second thought to.  :-(

  Jim, I didn't know, and I don't think, WGT has rejected the idea of eliminating/optioning the auto-caddy.  In fact I thought it was one of those they are considering?

  Since I no longer need to work for a living I can choose to do what I like.  And since I don't have a job to keep me mentally active I need to find other mentally stimulating activities.

  Then there's the hope WGT will eventually do it.......

  @PRS  Better, but you're going to still get complaints about having to click SPIN to get to the spin dot.   Is SWING going to be active without selecting a club?  The game needs to know which club first before assigning applicable shot types.

   

   

• alosso 21,093 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 7:17 AM

  andyson:

  Jim, I didn't know, and I don't think, WGT has rejected the idea of eliminating/optioning the auto-caddy.  In fact I thought it was one of those they are considering?

  They asked us in "Caddie Woes - we need your feedback" in January but left the community alone in that thread of four months. Not a single contribution nor a "Thank you" by the mods, and no change in the game, apparently.

  andyson:

  Then there's the hope WGT will eventually do it.......

  My 2 Pfennig: "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."

• lonniescott711 4,208 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 7:57 AM

  Your suggestion is too costly , it would require changing graphics as well as rewriting code and new program . As opposed to a simple on / off option in settings . I have been here for a little over 3 years now and for over 2 of them players have been asking to get rid of the caddy.  The caddy helps WGT make money off of ball sales , by causing mis hits which results in lost balls or more ball usage .

  At the same time , WGT is having a problem on trying to figure out how to give us the option to turn it off , and yet have the game respond to manual selection . So this may just be something we will always be stuck with , unless WGT rewrites the entire club selection program , which I dont see that happening either .

  So the bottom line is DONT TRUST THE CADDY . Always check and make your own club / shot selection and Dont TRUST THE CADDY .

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 6:55 PM

  lonniescott711:

  Your suggestion is too costly , it would require changing graphics as well as rewriting code and new program . As opposed to a simple on / off option in settings

  The off option is what PRS is trying to address lonnie.  What the interface would be when you turn the auto-caddy off.

• 2DAMFLASHY 1,141 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 7:16 PM

  sorry but i dont get why some want it changed,,,?

  ok its usally just one club off... or so ya have to change a shot type....

  if yer standing there with NO club...ya still have to pik one...then type of shot..an bla bla bla...

  so whats the diff >>> ?

  and on tee box,,, 99% of time ..i DO want a driver ... an he's all ready to go ..

  my caddie's just a lil high..but i don't wanna fire him  ..:)

  peace ..:)_~~

  ps...if they change it i don't mind..if they leve it so has default to the way it is now..

• gmaster007 2,101 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 8:12 PM

  PRStevenson:

  Please, please, please could WGT get rid of autocaddy. What a major improvement that would be to the game.

  and while you're at it, get rid of the 240 yard limit of the aim arrow,
  this isn't 2008 anymore, and we ain't using starters.

   

• PRStevenson 842 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 9:04 PM

  andyson:

  @PRS  Better, but you're going to still get complaints about having to click SPIN to get to the spin dot.   Is SWING going to be active without selecting a club?  The game needs to know which club first before assigning applicable shot types.

  I think they'd be complaints about any change. Having put some thought to it I think something like this might work best...

  

  Instead of having 3 steps just having 2.

  Default before selecting a club is avatar in upright pose (as in the picture above or as per andyson's mock-up).

  Step 1 - CLUB is highlighted green as above. When the player selects club the following happens > the avatar changes to avatar holding selected club pose > the word CLUB changes to the club name (brand, pic etc) > SWING turns green.

  Step 2 - SWING - When the player selects the swing type the word SWING changes to the type of swing > the distance in YDS appears

  'Ball on the tee' (spin) stays exactly the same.

  The only exception is putting where Step 2 isn't required. Upon selecting the putter the distance in YDS/FT would appear.  

  lonniescott711:

  Your suggestion is too costly , it would require changing graphics as well as rewriting code and new program

  IMO that's speculation. It would require changes but I'm sure WGT developers have a handle on what they would need to change to improve the interface and whoever decides budget would have an opinion on what's 'too' costly or not.

  While WGT developers would say these are 'big changes' for them to work on they're going to be fairly minor changes from what players have been used to but those changes will be noticeably better.

  2DAMFLASHY:

  sorry but i dont get why some want it changed,,,?

  it's not just change for the sake of change but an improvement posted to the product suggestions thread.

  The suggestion in essence is getting rid of the autocaddy. Following up on that, once you've got rid of autocaddy things would look different; so we're looking at the interface and how that might change. These are ideas that we're just putting out there and any others are welcomed. 

• tiger319 1,186 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 9:07 PM

  Having to select your own club before every shot seems more of a hassle than having autocaddy. 

• PRStevenson 842 Posts

  Tue, Oct 28 2014 9:37 PM

  gmaster007:

  and while you're at it, get rid of the 240 yard limit of the aim arrow,
  this isn't 2008 anymore, and we ain't using starters.

  Starters are about 220-225yds.

  I think what WGT's done is set the marker default to the middle of the range (of driver distances)...but it can be adjusted.

  tiger319:

  Having to select your own club before every shot seems more of a hassle than having autocaddy. 

  only if you think having to change your club from one club to another is more hassle than using your brain and selecting a club. Who would rely on autocaddy to make their choices for them? Not I for one.

• alosso 21,093 Posts

  Wed, Oct 29 2014 4:57 AM

  gmaster007:

  and while you're at it, get rid of the 240 yard limit of the aim arrow,

  this isn't 2008 anymore, and we ain't using starters.

  With the Starters, the aimer's position is closer, like 210 or 220 yds. And frequently, the camera moves with it.