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"fixing" Pinehurst #2 - hole 4

• 2DAMFLASHY 1,141 Posts

  Thu, Nov 27 2014 6:51 AM

  i also like the hole like it is...

  funn an very challenging ......

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=363faa4e-9f01-4d3f-978c-a3d3009db78a

  hmmm..seams i don't know how to post a live link to replay shot.... lol   but made that in one of D-blo's whaky turnys on ice greens

  peace..

• CanineSupervisor 1,882 Posts

  Thu, Nov 27 2014 7:25 AM

  2DAMFLASHY:

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=363faa4e-9f01-4d3f-978c-a3d3009db78a

     but made that in one of D-blo's whaky turnys on ice greens

   Here you go 2DF...I took the liberty of doing it for you, bud.

  VNS!

• pearljammmmer 4,268 Posts

  Thu, Nov 27 2014 12:09 PM

  I gotta wonder why you even bother playing then.

• donsprintr 2,063 Posts

  Thu, Nov 27 2014 4:25 PM

  This same conversation went round and round back in 2009 over Bethpage #7 being a par 4 instead of a par 5 like it is for the members. In another year WGT will likely have longer iron sets and longer 3 woods, so before long, people will have forgotten this conversation. 

  Enjoy it while it's still a challenge and before they make it a pitch and putt ....

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Fri, Nov 28 2014 12:33 AM

  The difference is that BPB was quite a perfect copy of the 2009 tournament, including that change on #7 and the shorter Champions' tee on #15 which is documented online from the USO.

  Here, the deviations to the tournament settings and the general scorecard are evident.

  Investigating deeper, I found some possible source for this.

  A scorecard from 2011 shows a limited but significant difference to the 2014 scorecard (pdf):

  Between #4 and #5, the Pars and HCP are interchanged + lengths adapted. WGT's setting are a mixture of these, resulting in #4 being a 569 yds Par4, HCP 15(!).

  => They may have been surprised by those changes and only done a minimum to follow.

  Furtheron, the new scorecard shows three different Par settings between the tees, compare holes 4, 5 and 8, and WGT supports only one, AFAIK. Alas, this doesn't explain other length deviations from the shorter tees, notably on holes #10 and #14.

  It's still a mess, and apparently good enough for "the best online golf game".

• thesupernova 7,336 Posts

  Fri, Nov 28 2014 5:29 AM

  It is a known fact that the championship designated hole 4 a par 4.......... teebox set at 529yards. at Pinehurt No.2 Golf Course.

  WGT designers didn't get the Memo.

  They need to have this acronym pasted ,tattooed and memo-ed...................

  

   

  Opps ...

  Too late

   

  However ,It's a done deal 

  DONE.

  Quit crying about it

  Move on

• CanineSupervisor 1,882 Posts

  Fri, Nov 28 2014 7:10 AM

  donsprintr:

  before long, people will have forgotten this conversation. 

  LMAO! Don.

  UNTIL somebody comes along and gives mouth-to-mouth to this thread, 2 years from now.

• derekortt 669 Posts

  Sat, Nov 29 2014 9:25 PM

  The hole is a very easy 4 to be honest. If you have it downwind right to left, 4 is not the hardest birdie hole on the course (I think 16 is a harder birdie due to the severity of the slope where the pin is. In fact, I narrowly missed an eagle in the virtual tour final round)

   

   

• kersh1976 2,790 Posts

  Sun, Nov 30 2014 4:33 PM

  I would say 17 at St Andrews is a far tougher hole from the  legend tee box, heavy wind against.  . You are left with an easy 3rd if you can't make the green on Pinehirst 4

• donsprintr 2,063 Posts

  Sun, Nov 30 2014 6:23 PM

  And you're left with an even easier third on #17 St. Andrews ... and an easier green to putt on.