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People who disconnect from Blitz

• andthewinneris 1 Posts

  Fri, Nov 5 2010 5:07 AM

   

  Is there any WGT can do to stop people from disconnecting from Blitz after they have played a crap shot,

  I have played with this one guy twice(his name is jovan93),and as soon as he play’s a bad shot he is off  and quite happily starts a new game

   

   

   

   

• weejohn5 67 Posts

  Mon, Nov 8 2010 4:09 PM

  I doubt that anything can be done [sadly], as some 'disconnects' are genuine server problems and it would be unfair to punish those who lose connection through no fault of their own. I sympathise, it happens to all of us I guess.

• x1524807 776 Posts

  Mon, Nov 8 2010 4:46 PM

  weejohn5:

  doubt that anything can be done [sadly], as some 'disconnects' are genuine server problems

  that is funny. The man hits a bad shot and disconnects, and it is not his fault. That is why we have so many quitters. It seems for every quitter, we have a defender, so with that in mind I would say the quitter problem will never get fixed. Seems to me that the vote for quitting far exceeds the for not quitting

• thebigeasy707 5,885 Posts

  Mon, Nov 8 2010 6:01 PM

  i'm thinking the majority of quitters are just gamers and don't actually play the game in real life or at least if they do they're crap at the game because if they understood golf etiquette, they'd not quit.

  i play 2 or 3 times a week in real life, sometimes more. i've played against players of my calibre and players better but i never quit, i'd never shame myself into quitting. quitting's for losers, nothing more nothing less.

  defenders will say that wgt is only a game etc ...bla bla bla...when actually the only difference between here and the real life game is that this one's virtual....it doesn't mean the etiquette needs to be fire outta the window in my honest opinion.

• moemuther 2 Posts

  Mon, Nov 8 2010 7:35 PM

  I will not play with more than one Master or better player at a time because they seen to be the worst.   They would not have ever reached their levels if they posted their bad games.  I do like to play them though because I post all my scores; therefore, like a "sandbagger" I can beat most of them.  I wish everyone would just finish their games and post their scores.

• weejohn5 67 Posts

  Mon, Nov 8 2010 10:25 PM

  I am not defending quitters [ I've met my share ! ], and, yes it is obvious when someone 'disappears' after a couple of bad shots or a bad hole. What I AM saying [ if you read the post ], is that anyone can lose connection [ bad server, power outage, etc. ] and it is impossible for a computer to distinguish in the way humans can, as to whether they have quit or not ! I know they have, YOU know they have, but computers are simply programmed and don't have judgemental capacity, Cheers.

• VanHalenLover 1,422 Posts

  Mon, Nov 8 2010 10:53 PM

  x1524807:

  It seems for every quitter, we have a defender

  I don't think it is quite this easy, x - the unfortunate problem is that there is no way feasible to know if it is a purposeful disconnect, or a server or internet problem, among many other valid (or nonpunishable, to be more accurate) reasons. This is the reason that a punishment system will never work to address quitters.

  It doesn't mean we are defending them, it simply means that we are on the side of caution, and not wanting to throw the baby out with the bath water.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Tue, Nov 9 2010 4:24 AM

  VanHalenLover:

  there is no way feasible to know if it is a purposeful disconnect, or a server or internet problem, among many other valid (or nonpunishable, to be more accurate) reasons.

  Have you tested this? 

  Obviously if a player clicks on End round-Main Menu, or Quit and Save the game knows you've purposely quit.

  Keep the forum window open and watch your game status in the left column widget, start a practice round in the game window.  Red X out of the practice game window.  The forum window knows you're gone and didn't click the End or Quit.  Protocols also tell it your I-net connection is still up.

  You can also try the same test and drop the I-net connection.  The game does a nice job of handling that as well.

  Server crashes?  Since multi-player is done on the same server for all parties the game would be lost for all parties so no damage done to anyone.  The main community server would also know the game server crashed and could clear those records.  Server crashes should be infrequent anyway.

  Run the same tests on the weekly unlimited tournament and the game properly handled all the disconnects I can throw at it.

  Regardless,  in a proper implementation of Reputation Tracking it doesn't matter how or why you've disconnected because you must complete that round solo or elect to take a small reputation hit, unless you were the last player remaining in a mp game.

• x1524807 776 Posts

  Tue, Nov 9 2010 4:30 AM

  VanHalenLover:

  I don't think it is quite this easy, x - the unfortunate problem is that there is no way feasible to know if it is a purposeful disconnect, or a server or internet problem,

  same old alibi.  The disconnects are the same for everyone, the meter problem is the same for everyone, all the problems wgt has is the same for everyone. I am afraid that you are using the disconnect as your alibi to quit. At the end of a year, we all have the same disconnects, unless you are using a dial up Isp, which in that case you should not bethis game. It is being rude to the other players. if you can buy clubs,balls etc, then buy a ISp that is compatible with this game

  IT IS OLD AND TIRING TO HEAR THE EXCUSES FOR QUITTING

• BriRock 148 Posts

  Tue, Nov 9 2010 7:36 AM

  andyson:

  VanHalenLover:

  there is no way feasible to know if it is a purposeful disconnect, or a server or internet problem, among many other valid (or nonpunishable, to be more accurate) reasons.

  I'm so sick of people using this idea as a defense / excuse to validate quitting...why can't people comprehend the fact that server/internet/computer failures or real life stuff accounts for such a miniscule amount of “quits” or disconnects…and also because everyone experiences them, there is no harm done to one individual player’s quitting percentage…If a player has that many legit “quits / system failures” then he/she cannot possibly enjoy any sort of online gaming as they disconnect so frequently…which is again, a bit of common sense…And everyone else has the right to know...There is nothing “unfortunate” about it, nor is it a “problem”, because it is shared by all…this is the nature of online gaming and will never ever be perfect because it relies on something that does not work 100% of the time…the internet.

  There is no such thing as a valid, or invalid reason, there are only “quits” and completed rounds…the reasons are irrelevant…all players have the right to know the percentage of rounds any other given player completes, as to give THEM a way to better enjoy THEIR experience on this site and this game…This system is for the benefit of everyone as a group, not as individuals…The group needs to know who they have the best chance to complete a round with period, end of story…The enjoyment of many should far outweigh the opinions / perspectives of few, or should I say pride…because that’s what is at stake when someone quits…It’s their pride that is hurt when they hit a bad shot, or lose a match, or win a match and their average may drop…god forbid you climb through the ranks and try to compete, its way to easy to stick around at tour pro / tour master and blow away the “competition”.

  Anyone who defends the fact that you (WGT) cannot determine how or why someone quits, stands to have something to lose if and when the Reputation System is put into place…because there is no downside to such a system…Why would anyone not want something in place which is designed to better their experience and ability to complete more MP rounds?? The ones who defend quitting, or are against such as system, are either repeat quitters, or enjoy being quit on, either one is wrong.

  Nobody said anything about punishment, it is just another stat that is viewable to all players about all players….just like you can view their score history…which to me is just as important…you have the ability now, to try to determine whether you think someone may be a sandbagger by viewing their recent scores… why not be able to determine whether you think someone is a quitter???  Nobody wants to play a round with either type.