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• DAZZA501 5,972 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 2:29 PM

  In case any of you were wondering, the level 97 Nike irons and the new level 100 Nike irons are not that much better than the level 90 R11's.

• 1enigma1 486 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 2:54 PM

  Ok thanks DAZZA  lol, i just got the R11s & i like them, you make the level 90ish players feel a bit better ;-)

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 3:03 PM

  1enigma1:

  Ok thanks DAZZA  lol, i just got the R11s & i like them, you make the level 90ish players feel a bit better ;-)

  And it's true, no great game changer or close awaits .  Some feel miffed at the wait, and in the case of TLs playing high level stuff I kind of see their point.  I hate to see those TLs leave over it that's all.  I think there is a half way house, but ................

• spdemon 1,588 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 3:09 PM

  Jimbog1964:

  And it's true, no great game changer

  The top 20 money leaders all got nikes though ....well except one that sticks out like a sore thumb i have the r11s the 97 nikes and the 100 nikes but prefer the r11s with the 71 nike 

  The lvl 100 nikes and the callie balls are a nice combo though lol

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 3:21 PM

  spdemon:

  The top 20 money leaders all got nikes though .

  Exactly my point, and thats what TLs or (sometimes lower) with a mind to compete look at, and then they look at the year +++ it will take, and some just sat say got to be joking and go.  Not everyone cares about being a multi and doing that, some are just 100% genuine.

  R11s are great clubs as are the Nikes, and the money board says most back themselves with the Nikes.

  My only point is that I do not understand WGT wanting to lose people over it or maybe they can't adjust?? Seems crazy to me and I was v sad to see a good bud just tell me the L100s were the final straw...gonsky.

• spdemon 1,588 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 3:26 PM

  I think anyone who makes TL should be able to get what they want (no matter how they get there also ) going from 90-100 is to far a stretch IMO when folks can make TL at lvl 95 or below  

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 3:38 PM

  spdemon:

  I think anyone who makes TL should be able to get what they want (no matter how they get there also ) going from 90-100 is to far a stretch IMO when folks can make TL at lvl 95 or below  

  Would not find me standing in the way of it.  My thought's are based on only what I perceive as very achievable all round with a great deal of what I consider pragmatism.  

  What I do know is that a couple of good buds have simply left over it.  People can tell them all day how they did it with a hickory stick, and how good L90 irons are.  Fact is they are not interested and leave.............leave the game, and for why ......

  All these fast money schemes whilst they watching people walk out the door, and so not even there to spend...One of life's little mysteries I guess.

• DrSlick 142 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 7:33 PM

  DAZZA501:

  In case any of you were wondering, the level 97 Nike irons and the new level 100 Nike irons are not that much better than the level 90 R11's.

  Aargh! It is not just about better. I HATE buying expensive balls here - lol. With a better meter, I would be very content with the cally 300c ball and using high end balls for special occasions. 

  I can score with a cally 300c ball, just not consistently as not many can ding round after round with the R11s. 

  There is no argument that the R11s are great clubs when you are dinging and even missing the ding a little bit. 

  It is as many people have stated - G0LD being the latest - just a non-sense policy from WGT. It is so unreasonable on the surface that the ONLY reason behind it must be money of some sort. 

  I think people that think they are going to change WGT by a max exodus are fooling themselves as there is an established community here. But, what is WGT's greatest strength here(the country clubs), may be a weakness as it is easy for word to spread if and ever another option comes along. 

  I think that there are a lot of legitimate players that reach TL in that L90-95 range that are just getting tortured by WGT, I would just like to know the $$$ behind the decisions as it has to be the $$$.

   

• alosso 21,093 Posts

  Sun, Feb 1 2015 11:29 PM

  DrSlick:

  I would just like to know the $$ behind the decisions as it has to be the $$.

  As calculated in another thread, 250,000 XPs (the level gap common from L97 up, at least to L112) translate into a minimum of 20+ sleeves in 200+ days, considering one 9 hole game + CDP for 1100 XPs per day. That's 5,000+ cr with my simple Callies, and playing more will raise the costs.

  I also remember former calculations to the effect that the 500 cr extra for the special Driver offer at lower levels was a good bargain with reasonable but not top balls.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Mon, Feb 2 2015 8:36 AM

  DAZZA501:

  In case any of you were wondering, the level 97 Nike irons and the new level 100 Nike irons are not that much better than the level 90 R11's.

  The thing is, the increase in accuracy may not be that substantial, but the reduction in meter speed is significant, and that is what personally I would mostly buy the new level 100 Nike for. Reflexes do not improve with age, I must say from experience.

  Anyway, given wgt's obstinate and unreasonable stance, I will probably never see the day when I can get access to these top irons. One word of caution to wgt: complacency is the mother of mediocrity, and there may be a time when someone will take notice, and have the resources to trump their card with a better all-around product that is more consumer-centred. Imagine a similar game that plays fullscreen without borders, have more graphically stunning courses, and offer better, more consistent mapping for the greens, thereby making them more readable. And those are only a few examples of things that could be better. Create such a game and I'm out of here.