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Fri, Jul 31 2015 3:00 PM (53 replies)
  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 5:55 AM

    coolasicebaby:
    I came to ask a simple question , but as always it gets turned into a sh*t storm

    Led by the head turd. You made this bed.

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 6:02 AM

    coolasicebaby:

    I now have Windows 10

    I was going to ask how that is working out for you, but after reading all the posts, including Eaglefans long one (very informative) i dont think i will bother now, lol. 

     

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 6:16 AM

    andyson:

    triple000:

    Could you please tell me how to run this test with HTML.

    thx in advance

    Trip.

    Here's the link: https://html5test.com/

    The test tells you how well your browser supports HTML5 but not how well it runs it.

    "The HTML5 test score is an indication of how well your browser supports the HTML5 standard and related specifications. Find out which parts of HTML5 are supported by your browser today and compare the results with other browsers.

    The HTML5 test does not try to test all of the new features offered by HTML5, nor does it try to test the functionality of each feature it does detect."

     

    Cheers Andy. I just tested my 4 browsers on this, and this is how they scored:

    Chrome: You are using Chrome Dev 44.0.2403.125 on Windows 8.1 Score: 526

    Firefox: You are using Firefox 39.0 on Windows 8.1 Score: 463

    IE: You are using Internet Explorer 11.0 on Windows 8.1 Score: 348

    Maxthon: You are using Maxthon 4.4.6 on Windows 8.1 Score: 467

    Now, i know it says how well it supports it, but with those scores, do you reckon Chrome would be the best anyway? Ive tried to steer away from Chrome now for a long time.

    Note, IE and Chrome have not been updated in a while.

     

  • oneeyedjohn
    9,580 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 7:31 AM

    I'll tell ya summat for nuffin 2-1, Opera is a heap o' shite.

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 7:58 AM

    PhiEaglesFan:

    You also make a go no-go decision the day before release.  I'd say they found that they borked the camera pretty quickly (and the sounds issue too), but the the time to take to fix it probably would have postponed the release itself.

    So, the next question you always ask is this:  Can people still accomplish the main functions of the game/website despite the presence of these errors? 

    Yeah, the cameras are goofy and the sounds are messed up, but this doesn't detract from the core ability to still play the game.   So, you release anyway with non-critical errors, and target a fix for those in the next release.

    Schedule vs Quality is always a tough call and it is clear to me Schedule has more weight than Quality in the Release criteria of WGT.  There are too many "non-critical" errors in the latest release.  Many of those errors are so obvious they should have been identified much earlier in development.   

    How many are related to the New Camera Views For Putting feature?  Look at my list of problems introduced in this release.  5 of the 7 are related to views!    IMO that feature is a POS (and that is not Point Of Sale!).  Its not only that it appears to have broken many functions that worked for years, its implementation has not been well received by us customers.!

    I'm not an expert in the Agile life-cycle used at WGT, (having 30+ years experience working in all phases and managing all phases of a Waterfall process.), but i do know it is goal oriented.  Initially the Product Owner sets goals for the release. Those goals normally list the features and priority of each feature targeted for the release and hopefully some Quality criteria for the release.  Personally I like something along the lines of "new changes will not affect existing functionality" because customers don't like it.

    Essentially the Product Owner defines the value of the release.  So look at what was in the June 25th release.  I'd vote that both the CC improvements and New Camera Views features would be low priority as there's no commitment to the customers (us) to have those features in July.  My opinion.

    No problem then moving the New Camera Views to the next release.  That addition does not meet any "Done-ness" criterial I could imagine.  Pull it and you've got another month to clean it up.  And those non-critical problems never show up in the Release criterial.

    The bottom line is its not all about Schedule & Quality, Content has to be part of the decision making process.  And their methodology supports it.

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 8:56 AM

    TWOMINUSONE:

    Cheers Andy. I just tested my 4 browsers on this, and this is how they scored:

    Chrome: You are using Chrome Dev 44.0.2403.125 on Windows 8.1 Score: 526

    Firefox: You are using Firefox 39.0 on Windows 8.1 Score: 463

    IE: You are using Internet Explorer 11.0 on Windows 8.1 Score: 348

    Maxthon: You are using Maxthon 4.4.6 on Windows 8.1 Score: 467

    Now, i know it says how well it supports it, but with those scores, do you reckon Chrome would be the best anyway? Ive tried to steer away from Chrome now for a long time.

    Note, IE and Chrome have not been updated in a while.

    Surprise, surprise TMO!  Your Chrome has been updating itself and you have the latest version.  It's up to date!

    I use Chrome and Pepperflash (both up to date) to run the gameclient and it runs real good on my system (6 mo old laptop with 4th gen i7, 16G RAM, nvidea graphics card so the game damn well better run good on this rig!)

    The HTML5 scores are kinda a moot point at this juncture since the game ain't HTML5.  But your scores do reflect that Google is farther along than the other browsers in supporting HTML5.    And it does make sense as they are the ones, it appears, are leading the "Flash is dead" mob.  And btw, I got the exact same 526 score on Chrome.

    Andy

     

  • coolasicebaby
    142 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 9:00 AM

    TwoMinus

    Windows 10 is working fantastically actually. Been Windows Insider since first beta. It's improved dramatically and Edge Browser is excellent. xxx

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 11:29 AM

    TWOMINUSONE:

    coolasicebaby:

    I now have Windows 10

    I was going to ask how that is working out for you, but after reading all the posts, including Eaglefans long one (very informative) i dont think i will bother now, lol.

    Good move. Wait until somebody trusted tries it out.  ;-)

    I trust ScottHope.

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 12:39 PM

        

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Thu, Jul 30 2015 12:57 PM

    Thanks folks. Andy, when i read your reply, i just then remembered i changed my settings about a week ago to automatically update. Thought i might as well since i havent been playing of late. Cheers dude.

    The reason im curious about windows 10 is i got the notification on my PC for getting it free. It will download tomorrow i think. But im worried that something for nothing is not the way this will go. I got Microsoft office 365 last year, and the sales man never said nothing about it being a subscription service. Needless to say i dumped it, and downloaded an older version. 

    Im worried this windows 10 is going to go the same way. I have researched as far as i could about it, but havent found anything yet that says this will happen. But you know well folks, it probably could, so im holding off on installing it until i get some concrete evidence this wont happen. 

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