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What yardage would you play? (Some polls)

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Tue, Nov 24 2015 9:59 AM (33 replies)
  • JFidanza
    1,676 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 7:03 AM

    gerryniswonger:

    Hpurey says  "So for me, an 8 mph wind in my face,  I'd almost disregard the wind"

    So are you saying to disregard a headwind of less than 10 mph?  In this case your calculation was almost perfect..

     

    I can't speak for hpurey but what I got from his response was that he factored in the extra distance from the Nike ball which he 'almost disregards the wind' because of that extra distance.

     

  • gerryniswonger
    1,890 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 8:23 AM

    I'm very pleased.  A lot of responses and the possibility of improving my game,  I will definitely post more polls.  Thanks all.

  • MTBR
    182 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 9:01 AM

    gerryniswonger:

    I'm very pleased.  A lot of responses and the possibility of improving my game,  I will definitely post more polls.  Thanks all.

    Wind in your face downhill does mean the wind has more time to affect the ball. Sometimes you wouldn't even calculate the downhill at all depending on how far it is (club choice) and how strong the wind is. The ball will get to a point in a headwind that it just says "fk it" and starts to fall, therefore the downhill is not adding any yards at all, The ball is just dying and falling.Be very aware of wind in your face downhill situations. Also, i have never seen elevation rated in yards, always feet, as much as 100 ft downhill. Strong enough wind in your face on a high lofted club 100 ft downhill would actually blow the ball backwards on its descent.

  • hpurey
    11,520 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 9:14 AM

    JFidanza:

    gerryniswonger:

    Hpurey says  "So for me, an 8 mph wind in my face,  I'd almost disregard the wind"

    So are you saying to disregard a headwind of less than 10 mph?  In this case your calculation was almost perfect..

     

    I can't speak for hpurey but what I got from his response was that he factored in the extra distance from the Nike ball which he 'almost disregards the wind' because of that extra distance.

     

    That's pretty much it.   I start worrying about head wind over 10 mph.   Mostly due to not knowing the distance for each club with the extra distance ball.

    In my thinking,  the extra distance of the nike ball will counter the effects of 10mph headwind.  Then I just go by the rated distance of each club.

     

    It's just something that I've noticed while playing....  accounting for the headwind and finding the shots going long.  

     

    But I should mention that I am not the most advanced player and haven't spent time mapping my clubs with the Nike ball since  the yellow callaway is my preferred ball. 

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 9:39 AM

    gerryniswonger:
    169 yards into 8mph wind & downhill 12 yards. I added 6 yards for the wind, and subtracted 3 yards for downhill for a calculation of playing the shot 171 yards.  How many yards would you play and why?

    Here's a take from a feel golfer-no math, just the feeling.

    I know my 180 yd 6i carries that far (180) with the ball I use (71 Nike) before wind and elevation. I know if I hit it right it's going to fly that pin, that little wind notwithstanding. My 165 yd 7i is also going to carry that distance but will also fly that pin because it's downhill. The wind might knock it down a little but it's still too much shot for that example because with no spin, the roll will happen with a 7i.

    So I pretty much have 2 shots to decide on-spin the 6i or feather the 7i. IMO the 7i is a trickier shot and with a headwind like that, the 6i is going to stop on a dime with partial back spin and a choke. This is where the actual landing condition comes in (downhill green, uphill, etc.) so that would pretty much determine which of those 2 shots I would play. 

    My preference would be the 6i with 1/2 bs hit about 97% full. (I use the blue ruler on the meter for choking and 97% is about 1/2 of the space to the start of the blue ruler.) My second choice would be no spin on a 7i hit about 97%.  

     

    Excellent discussion, folks.  :-)

  • razza31
    703 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 10:46 AM

    My 6i with full backspin will go round about 180yds. So i'll take a bit off it. Maybe 5-10yds..

    Don't really measure in % or pixels so that 'bit' would vary depending on the time I woke up that day.

    Edit: I'd actually play neutral spin 7i if its an easier putt from short of pin

  • borntobesting
    9,753 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 11:00 AM

    One thing to consider is green contour. If the green slopes down front to back then maybe more bs would be needed. If it slopes up front to back like # 15 at BPB then maybe aim shorter and add topspin.

  • gerryniswonger
    1,890 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 1:09 PM

    MTBR, It was supposed to be feet not yards.  My bad.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 1:38 PM

    I think the answers reflect most assumed you meant feet like Scott thought in his response. I did.

    Interesting twist on your scenario. How does it being 12 yards change the shot?   :-)

  • mkg335
    5,491 Posts
    Sun, Nov 22 2015 2:03 PM

    YankeeJim:

    I think the answers reflect most assumed you meant feet like Scott thought in his response. I did.

    Interesting twist on your scenario. How does it being 12 yards change the shot?   :-)

    If it's anything like some of the holes at CB, probably calls for two clubs less and some kind of supernatural intervention...or a stiff drink at the least.

    ;-)

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