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Wed, Nov 24 2021 11:47 PM (518 replies)
  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 6:17 PM

    ISH47:

    The topic of different meter speeds for different courses is something I've been thinking about lately..  I feel like the meter speed at Bandon is way faster than I'm used to.. I'm using 3,5 meter Nike balls and they're playing like Cally 33's.  I'm getting very frustrated. What's the point in spending more money on slow meter balls when they're not consistently slow?

    Maybe it's just me.. at least that's what WGT would have me believe anyway.. lol

    OK I will now sound like the dunce:

    I have no testing, but just assumed the speed was a bit variable.  I never minded that as room within any given ball speed for that I thought.  Now that was always assuming same for all of course.  I have some vids and now a few twitch twitch feeds and any one watching can see my ding rate is not real high - I will hedge my bets in a wind missing the right side rather than risk oblivion etc, and I will do that after a quick run through often to get a feel for what I need to be ready for..............

    I was thrilled  yesterday to have one round where I played crap, and the next where I played fine, even jagged the RG win,  and all on twitch and my desktop even in full view.  

    Think I give up (:

     

  • Woodoworkery
    3,498 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 6:17 PM

    When a person twitches ,and is set up with window capture, any application is hid, also if you hide the arrow no one knows what you are doing until they see the meter start.

    Only when you use monitor capture is when everything on the screen is visible to the viewer.

    To test this out , just try to see your skype window when in window capture, you can't , then switch it to monitor capture and SHAZAM there it is

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 6:20 PM

    Woodoworkery:
    To test this out , just try to see your skype window when in window capture, you can't , then switch it to monitor capture and SHAZAM there it is

    My twitch is set to monitor capture, and clearly showed all I have...Not webcam all I have, LOL:)...I never spent ages setting mine up (and remember NOT an IT person), and OBS crashed when it was set to game capture, but fine with monitor which I quickly saw on the web was best for flash......................works fine, but if useless as an indication of fairness disheartening that's all.

    SO IF anyone twitching showed there desktop, and showed their OBS set to monitor capture would this help???  probably not I am guessing...phew my brain is not IT educated, lol.

  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 6:24 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    I have no testing, but just assumed the speed was a bit variable.  I never minded that as room within any given ball speed for that I thought.

    I wouldn't mind it either if my eyes weren't getting so bad.. Getting real hard for me to keep track of the meter when it starts speeding up close to the ding line. My eyes want to cross on me.. lol.  I've lost a sleeve of balls on Bandon #3 going over that little fence and OB.  :)

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 6:42 PM

    PaulTon:

    MBidney:
    It would for sure get the hackers off of twitch who think broadcasting some how legitimizes their game.

       

      You've just thrown a cat amongst the pigeons. Bold statement.

    ^^^ But true nontheless.....

    If only I was bothered about earning credits  :-)

  • hazeleyes10
    14 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 7:15 PM

    ISH47:

    Jimbog1964:
    I have no testing, but just assumed the speed was a bit variable.  I never minded that as room within any given ball speed for that I thought.

    I wouldn't mind it either if my eyes weren't getting so bad.. Getting real hard for me to keep track of the meter when it starts speeding up close to the ding line. My eyes want to cross on me.. lol.  I've lost a sleeve of balls on Bandon #3 going over that little fence and OB.  :)

    meter speed.the meter speed has been programed to be variable,randomly or not.for one main reason.it stops MUSCLE MEMORY from developing,if they did not you would get to the point of hitting the ding every time with your eyes closed.i miss about 3 to 4 birdi putts a round due to meter speeding up on down swing , it appears to be random.the side affect is it totaly stuffs up your game. 

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 8:23 PM

    It's prolly just your time of the month Ish lol...my meter was fine until about Wed, then it started flying through the hitting zone at the last possible second 2 days ago with the 3.5 meter ball for me too..last week it was almost perfect.

  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Sat, Jan 10 2015 8:55 PM

    fatdan:
    It's prolly just your time of the month Ish l

    LOL..  Oh yeah, ain't no doubt about it.

  • PBaldwin
    108 Posts
    Sun, Jan 11 2015 3:50 AM

    xSTILLFLY:

    super slow meter and pre-calculated wind/aim locations. that's anything but legit to anybody with proper class. you guys are awfully strong at defending these things. when you guys should be trying to fix things. not just trying to ignore. or maybe trying to save yourself because you have to use programs that are like them. if you feel that having programs that enable "tiger vision" (for those that don't know what that is. It's when you are giving an exact point to aim where the ball will go in)   do you know what the word devious means?! devious- underhand tactics/ going about things in a non-straightforward way.

    So aiming to a certain spot based on calculations is cheating? There is a lot of work involved in getting the side to side aim calculations correct.  It's just as difficult as it is to get the wind calculation for distance correct.  With the amount of variables in the game, and having to ding, it makes it extremely difficult to get it all right.  It takes HARD WORK and DEDICATION to build a calculator that can bullseye every single hole.

    Don't be mad that some people are willing to put in the effort and you are not.

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sun, Jan 11 2015 4:52 AM

    PBaldwin:
     It takes HARD WORK and DEDICATION to build a calculator that can bullseye every single hole.

    +1 it's called taking notes.  Also in any given RG cycle even a player like me gets better at a course, just from playing it more and more,  and having that fresh in my mind.  If that's cheating then we all need a brain wipe after every round in case we use experience.

    Anyway of sensible concern  are programs that influence meter stop points or ball travel.

    Thought about this - can be dangerous:

    No offense to any one,  just empirically from this and a PM or two.really:

    Bear in mind only twitched rounds:

    1.  You can macro enable a mouse.  One way of doing this is to know the exact speed of every club going to be used at every hole.  

    Hmm - Dismissing practice mode (I doubt WGT miss that trick) that's some doing on the face of it.  Assumes you can even measure everything that exactly....

    2.  Some one else says macro mousing would not do it, but there are other ways of doing it all they  said.  Obviously no more comment from me, as all I know.  I would say sounds risky if you pressed the wrong hotkey, and revealed the whole desktop (assumes possible).

    3. Some super funky cheat program exist that deletes all wind etc.  Clearly Twitching deletes that one as effective, unless it also mimics believable ball flight.  Out there to this untrained person, but... 

    Clearly if someone regularly goes 6 weeks dinging every shot that sounds a bit sus.  

    Reading all this, and no offense to any one I am left thinking a twitched game may not be as unreliable a guide as some suggest.  I guess some kid could set it to always give one club / ball combo a particular speed, and who could spot that if close.  Now in the finelines of RGs even that would be a huge unfair advantage, and throw in an auto clicker after that easy to clean up with twitch still on, but risky if you pressed that hot key and revealed all (assuming macro mice van't do it).

    A couple of other scenarios obviously exist from the above, but that's enough for this.

    If twitch at least offers some degree of comfort that a round is played fair, and I am inclined to think it does, I urge WGT to confirm that.  

    Just my addled brain trying to make sense of all this.

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