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• stevereilly 5,910 Posts

  Mon, Aug 7 2017 2:37 AM

  Damian, your thread has hit a chord with me.   I was constantly baffled with the low participation of lower tier players within the CC even though I'd put up prizes (clubs or balls). Some find this game and move on after a month or two. Some stay for many years and they're the ones you want to recruit,  but there is no way of distinguishing between the two when as an owner you are asked for acceptance into a CC.

  I think the problem is new lower tier members can feel a little overawed with the scoring of the top players in the established CCs.  What I'd say to those lower tier players is talk to the owner and ask if the CC you're about to join offers tier specific competition.

  I'm afraid to say it,  but I wouldn't recommend a tour pro jump in and join a club full of champion tier players right away. I'd suggest they join a lower tier club.

  If that club works out, then all the members progress in standard  at roughly the same pace. You've found your family.

  When I joined WGT,  I looked in awe at the members of The Deviations and their stats, BolloxInBruges was the top player back then (he's still pretty good   :)    ).  However, I just wanted some friendly competition so I joined Bridgestone. Over the years, the gap between Bridgestone and The Deviations closed. This , I'm sure is the reason new players should join up and coming CCs, like Texas Lone Stars, Craven Dale or WGT PinHunters.  However, I feel that the top players in those CC's should move on and find a new challenge. If you're a champion player in a club full of legends,  maybe test yourself in a club full of champions,  there are plenty of CCs full of them.

• PSUTOM 188 Posts

  Mon, Aug 7 2017 3:23 AM

  I've been in several clubs over the years and some are more demanding than others. The last one I was in, a very successful one by the way, was just too demanding for me to keep up to and I was more than a casual player. So I stopped playing for a while and allowed myself to be dismissed.

  I started my own club up, opened membership to Hacks and players with acceptance upon request. That's as easy as it gets to join a club, and my only requirement is that you play to stay. the rules are spelled out in our forum, which by the way no one other than me has posted in yet.

  I lost count of the players i had to cull from the club, but of the ones who choose to play, they are successful.

  All in all it is not at all a demanding club, in fact for the serious player it would probably not be for them. I run the club for the casual player with few restriction, and I expect players who join do so with that in mind. No problem, it's just a game.

• hitmeup020 83 Posts

  Mon, Aug 7 2017 10:45 PM

  realize that when you invite hacks to your cc they are people who are just trying out the game for the first time. they may not be excited about it or think it is so great. let alone join a country club    lol

  I think about 90% of them never play again or very rarely

  cc invites should go to pros or tour pros who have played in alt shot games or other interactive formats and have found it to be fun and addictive.

  me personally got addicted when a pro at level 28 and started playing alt shot.

  the team effort is what made it fun .......   God bless   .........

   

   

• HackWilson1930 1,437 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 8:06 AM

  Hitmeup has picked up on the central point of the game of golf.  It is social.  IRL country clubs are social organizations. With WGT, the best clubs are the same but with less drinking after playing a round. 

  Using a voice chat program such as skype or gamevox really makes the social aspects even more noticeable.

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 8:09 AM

  hitmeup020:

  cc invites should go to pros or tour pros who have played in alt shot games or other interactive formats and have found it to be fun and addictive.

  I don't actually send out invitations.  I sometimes ask players during alt games if they're looking for a club but other than that I let players come to us.

  Something I've noticed recently is how many new players find the pro shop immediately and start renting gear.  I really have reservations about those players.  It took me a while to put any money into this game, I wanted to find out what it's like first. 

  It appears some either decide very quickly or already know........

• adaputter 1,954 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 10:05 AM

  damian you wont get every player to play every game

  sad fact but thats the way it is

  players play when they want and if they want to

  no matter whats up for prizes

  i wish you luck in getting an active cc

  if you get at least 20% participarting thats a good start

• PSUTOM 188 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 10:09 AM

  As I mentioned previously, I like to keep an open CC. I am not deluged with too many hacks, but I do believe it is advantageous for newcomers to get all the help they can with shot/putter pal, to enjoy the game more. My club is not really a social type club, we do not play each other "live" within the club. I've only recently set up tourneys because there was never an interest.

  I realize my club format is a bit of an oddball, but my thoughts are we never go back and forth about who's the biggest jerk, or cheater like a lot of others sometimes do. Make no mistake, I did not form this club with the intentions of being like all the others. I guess you could say that we are a group of loners who like to play the game against anonymiss players.

• Lute345 2,483 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 11:56 AM

  HackWilson1930 hit the nail on the head. Country Clubs are meant to be social organizations. Our club, Go for the Gusto, tries to get our members more involved in our Club Forums. We encourage them to let us know a little bit about themselves in real life so we can have a more familiar, friendly club setting. This has turned out to be very successful. And it's amazing how diversified our club is currently. Last count I believe we have over 10 women members which is saying a lot in a Man's World!! Still a low percentage of our membership.

  We have several veteran members who love helping out our lower tiered members to improve on their games. We set up club tournaments specifically for their tiers only. It's been tough getting good attendance numbers but it has gotten better as of late. We've had really good numbers in our club scramble tournaments which teams up lower tiered members with higher tiered members, like a real life golf scramble. The members seem to like those type of formats.

  We do try to encourage all of our members to use their Free Daily Passes each time they log on and play but it is not mandatory. We explain to our newer members that if they can keep a Consecutive Days Played streak going they'll get more Experience Points each time as well. We also keep our members posted on what it takes them to Level up and to move up in Tiers as well. Ranked Rounds and also Saturation Points. So our main objective is to educate and help promote better play for all of our members. As one of the Directors, my motto has always been, play you're best but most of all, just have fun!!

  Lute

• bigcountry317 4,269 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 12:16 PM

  YankeeJim:

  MainzMan:

  Finding a good one is a real bonus around here.

  Well YOU found us but we weren't good enough for more than a cup of coffee.  :-P

  LMAO......& what a fun cup of coffee it was! :-)

  Damian, it is a tall task trying to get a highly active cc going again once it has stalled.....I unfortunately witnessed this with my first cc.  Luckily, you are the type that has the ability to do so.......all you need is to find a few more like minded members to spice things up a bit and I'm betting you'll find the success you are looking for.  Good luck my friend, keep at it and, if all else fails, you know there is a home waiting for you!

• Lutjanid 697 Posts

  Tue, Aug 8 2017 2:59 PM

  This is a common problem I see talked about often. Perhaps CC's can only support so many really involved members at a time, if you get overloaded then some may feel put out and move away to establish another CC.

  Of course they themselves run into the same problems. A really good idea would be to gather up all the really keen and dedicated players and move lock, stock and barrel to another CC.

  Thus creating a hive of like minded people at the one club. I think it's far more important to keep the better members than place all your efforts on finding new ones.