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How The hell is Anyone Supposed To Have A Fair Chance

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  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:28 PM

    GIMMMEEE:
    If Qualifying for the Opens were played in tougher conditions and BIB lead with a 71, how many people would then try n post scores unless assured of getting close to the cut..?

     

    Everyone would.

     

    You may not realize it yet (but you should, you've played enough) is that even in tough conditions, par or or a few under is still easy enough to do even for mediocre guys like myself.

    Take the US Virtual Open for example, round one was High winds on Champ greens, a couple sub 60's were posted as well as a slew of 60-63's.

    The only thing that would make Par enviable, would be to make all par 3's 300 yards, all Par 4's 500 yards and Par 5's 650 yards.

    Keep in mind what the PGA tour started about 20 years or so ago to combat technology in new clubs and balls, they began lengthening courses.  New championship courses built in the past 15 years or so have kept this in mind as well. 

     

     

  • iukine
    195 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 1:56 PM

    maybe tourneys based on average instead of tier or level would work? then again, maybe not. I'm pretty much fed up with the same guys over and over winning it all. Entering tournaments hoping I'll shoot lights out aint working, and no matter how much I play and practice there is no answer to the meter issue or the vem. Why don't that affect the top guys, someone answer that for all the players who don't average in the low 50's for tourneys!?

  • b0geybuster
    2,574 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 4:17 PM

    iukine:
    maybe tourneys based on average instead of tier or level would work? then again, maybe not. I'm pretty much fed up with the same guys over and over winning it all. Entering tournaments hoping I'll shoot lights out aint working, and no matter how much I play and practice there is no answer to the meter issue or the vem. Why don't that affect the top guys, someone answer that for all the players who don't average in the low 50's for tourneys!?

    The top tourneys and prizes should never be tiered or average based.  We are talking the big leagues here, you don't see some amateur like myself winning the US Open cause I get to play off the front tees while Tiger is at the tips.  It just doesn't wortk that way.   

    Fed up with the same guys winning over and over again.  You have no idea what these players put into this game, and they are rewarded as such.   I have said it multiple times its time and the ability to remember shots, and/or putts and the abiliity to read on the fly.   And fortunately for some their lives permit them to play countless hours each and every day.

    if you have a meter issue I feel for you, but many of the top players have high end computers stripped pretty much clean, and used solely for WGT.  No add on, no BS programs that are going to bog the computer down.    Meter issues happen once every few games and when they do happen they know how to get up and down and salvage par.    

    And lastly, VEM is like an urban legend IMO.  yes there are deviations and IMO these are due to club characteristics and camera angles that may be off just a touch.   

    You can take it for what it is, but a simple comparison of your game to the top players tells the story.....

    We will look at the current US OPEN champion to prove my point.

    He started almost 1 yr after you, and is only 130 ranked games behind you.

    His average distance to the pin is 2ft closer then yours.

    He average putts per hole is a whoppoing 1.41 to your 1.60 and he one putts 56.67 of the time to your 43.46

    In trouble he is 74.76 in sand saves to your 46.96 and his scrambling is 77.61 to your 57.55.

    In trouble he is outstanding and even better in putting, so if they are affected by the meter, he still has a great chance at birdie with the flat stick.  

    Just saying,

    b0gey

  • dorkfeatures
    712 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 5:59 PM

    Hi,

    giantfan5611:
    his site expects me to spend my money on better equipment and entry fees when I don't have a hope in hell of qualifying for any tournaments or winning anything????

    Then everyone who plays, qualifies for every tournament - right ?? I dont think.

    Like in any sport - the best, and only the best win - that's the reality. I have been here over 3 years now, never won a tournament - but I dont play to win tournaments. I play simply because I enjoy the game and I just keep trying to better my own scores.

    Its entirely up to me if I want to spend any money - no ones forcing me. Buying clubs does not entitle you to qualify or win anything.

    Just saying thats all.

    Cheers

    Doug

     

     

  • wildcat18racing6
    420 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 6:08 PM

    So....how about them Red Sox? Think they will beat out the evil empire for the division?

  • xtabent
    2,281 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 6:36 PM

    I love being an Aussie..you Americans get so cut up over a game....

    to the ladies and gents that shoot in the 50's well done, it takes some serious play time..

    To "giantfan"...let me buy you some balls, sounds like your 's need replaceing...

  • Boomerboy44
    1,514 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 6:56 PM

    All us Yanks are glad your an Aussie also. I ain't never been cut up over RUGBY.......lmao...!!

  • ITAPH2001
    8 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 7:10 PM

    THE LOW SCORES PEOPLE SHOOT ARE DUE TO THE CHEAT CODES THAT THEY HAVE NOT BECAUSE THEY PRACTICE A LOT.  JUST PLAY FOR FUN UNLESS YOU WANT TO CHEAT WITH THESE CODES. THATS THAT AND THATS REALITY...NO FAIR

  • ITAPH2001
    8 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 7:17 PM

    SOMEONE SHOT 52 ON ROYAL ST GEORGES COME ON IS THAT REALITY WITHOUT CHEATING?

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Jul 8 2011 8:25 PM

    Boomerboy44:

    All us Yanks are glad your an Aussie also. I ain't never been cut up over RUGBY.......lmao...!!

    Is that Rugby League or Union... There is also Aussie Rules Football that we get cut up about... well now there is the World Game... not forgetting Baskettball, Netball, Hockey just to name a few.

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