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How The hell is Anyone Supposed To Have A Fair Chance

• GIMMMEEE 224 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 12:00 AM

  .. I think its easy for most people to see the name 'Bollox' in these forums n agree cos 'most' of what he says is relevant n correct.. .. but dont make knee-jerk reactions before digesting whats actually being said.... 

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 12:30 AM

  GIMMMEEE:

  BolloxInBruges:

  Since you're so special how about WGT just hands you an entry on a silver platter.  Sounds a lot better than working for it huh??

  .. I dont think the issue is about cheating or hand-outs but more to the point the 'unrealistic' scoring that is happening n why its happening....    If WGT sets up harder courses n make scoring 'realistic' they will lose revenue through having the 'Legends' lose their scoring averages of which they protect so damn prudently.. .. .. I say to WGT, make the courses tougher and make PAR a good standard rather than mediocrity.. .. thats reality!

  Sorry m8, I don't understand, you seem to be doing pretty well..why make the courses harder for?.. lol.  You might find once you get promoted to TM and Legend those courses will start to get harder.

  It won't make much difference if the courses are hard or easy. People will still be shooting the good scores.

  Cheers

     Roger

• GIMMMEEE 224 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 3:09 AM

  mantis0014:

  GIMMMEEE:

  BolloxInBruges:

  Since you're so special how about WGT just hands you an entry on a silver platter.  Sounds a lot better than working for it huh??

  .. I dont think the issue is about cheating or hand-outs but more to the point the 'unrealistic' scoring that is happening n why its happening....    If WGT sets up harder courses n make scoring 'realistic' they will lose revenue through having the 'Legends' lose their scoring averages of which they protect so damn prudently.. .. .. I say to WGT, make the courses tougher and make PAR a good standard rather than mediocrity.. .. thats reality!

  Sorry m8, I don't understand, you seem to be doing pretty well..why make the courses harder for?.. lol.  You might find once you get promoted to TM and Legend those courses will start to get harder.

  It won't make much difference if the courses are hard or easy. People will still be shooting the good scores.

  Cheers

     Roger

                                                                                                                                                 I might just be old fashion, I dont know,,,      I just believe that as we play the game for real it would be great if we had to scramble around on here too... .... thats all I wanted to say n represent, I fully understand that we all have our opinions though....    Cheers!

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 5:28 AM

  RickBarenes:

  BolloxInBruges:

  Since you're so special how about WGT just hands you an entry on a silver platter.  Sounds a lot better than working for it huh??

  Another note is I message Bolloxin the other day asked him a simple question he gave me the advise now I am adding 2 more birdies to my score.Dude ask these guys you are not going to win anything without practice and playing and little advise from these guys.

   

  Thank you Bolloxin My scores are getting 2 strokes better on average now since our small chat I will be coming for ya soon lol keep shootin straight.Good luck in the Open 

   

  Your are right, Bollox has always given great advise and honestly likes to help those who ask. The key is to ask....

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 6:36 AM

  mantis0014:

  It won't make much difference if the courses are hard or easy. People will still be shooting the good scores.

  Yep, then instead of complaining that a 6 under isn't good enough it'll be that 10 over doesn't get you anywhere.

  Even if the game became so hard that BiB shot even par from now on, he'd still be 15 or so shots ahead of most players and would still probably be accused of cheating.

  Seriously, what is the problem here?  I don't expect to be able to play guitar like Slash because he's been doing it for many years and has spent hundreds of thousands of hours practicing.  Why shouldn't WGT reward those who put the effort in too?

• SgtDoodles 3,112 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 7:27 AM

  shoop:

  GIANT'S   FAN ?

  But giants are scary!

• thebigeasy707 5,885 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 8:07 AM

  MainzMan:

  Even if the game became so hard that BiB shot even par from now on, he'd still be 15 or so shots ahead of most players and would still probably be accused of cheating.

  yupps.....that's about the fact of the matter.

  tbe

   

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Sun, Jul 3 2011 10:42 AM

  GIMMMEEE:

  I say to WGT, make the courses tougher and make PAR a good standard rather than mediocrity.. .. thats reality!

  It occured to me after my last post that we already have a course where even good players sometimes struggle to make par.

  And poor Oakmont is probably close behind cheating and meter issues in the moan department here.

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Fri, Jul 8 2011 8:58 AM

  GIMMMEEE:

  BolloxInBruges:

  Since you're so special how about WGT just hands you an entry on a silver platter.  Sounds a lot better than working for it huh??

  .. I dont think the issue is about cheating or hand-outs but more to the point the 'unrealistic' scoring that is happening n why its happening....    If WGT sets up harder courses n make scoring 'realistic' they will lose revenue through having the 'Legends' lose their scoring averages of which they protect so damn prudently.. .. .. I say to WGT, make the courses tougher and make PAR a good standard rather than mediocrity.. .. thats reality!

  Late to the party here. I've been on vacation. Can you elaborate on how higher scoring averages will cause WGT to lose revenue? If anything they would gain revenue. More shots equals more balls used equals more revenue.

  Secondly, don't group all Legends together when making statements about "protecting scoring averages so damn prudently". I think my average is 62 and I've posted MANY rounds over that average. Scoring average may be important to some (not sure why) but definitely not all.

• GIMMMEEE 224 Posts

  Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:42 AM

  DarSum:

  GIMMMEEE:

  BolloxInBruges:

  Since you're so special how about WGT just hands you an entry on a silver platter.  Sounds a lot better than working for it huh??

  .. I dont think the issue is about cheating or hand-outs but more to the point the 'unrealistic' scoring that is happening n why its happening....    If WGT sets up harder courses n make scoring 'realistic' they will lose revenue through having the 'Legends' lose their scoring averages of which they protect so damn prudently.. .. .. I say to WGT, make the courses tougher and make PAR a good standard rather than mediocrity.. .. thats reality!

  Late to the party here. I've been on vacation. Can you elaborate on how higher scoring averages will cause WGT to lose revenue? If anything they would gain revenue. More shots equals more balls used equals more revenue.

  Secondly, don't group all Legends together when making statements about "protecting scoring averages so damn prudently". I think my average is 62 and I've posted MANY rounds over that average. Scoring average may be important to some (not sure why) but definitely not all.

  .. If Qualifying for the Opens were played in tougher conditions and BIB lead with a 71, how many people would then try n post scores unless assured of getting close to the cut..?  Golfers on this site get very enthusiastic about playing when the conditions are simplistic.. it DECREASES AVERAGES plus the fact to most its MORE FUN GETTING BIRDIES THAN PARS!!!.. ..  WGT are aware of this, lower averages n birdies = $$$ with people buying balls n better clubs, thats the enticement n thats cool, its their game, n a damn good one!         Your second point doesn't really hold up either, simply check the retiree's in RG's, its all about averages....   And in making my point of view, please dont come that crap of Legend bashing, I realise like most non Legends that you have done the hard yards to get there....          Lastly, can I make it very clear too, the players who lead n win Major Tournaments would still be the same names if the conditions were par n above, thus, why dont WGT set up PAR standard courses for a bit of fun n bite..?.. perhaps it all comes down to revenue...