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Sun, Jun 10 2018 1:39 PM (12 replies)
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  • the11thaardvark
    39 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 2:40 AM

    What's the best way to account for elevation on approach shots? anything over 6 feet up. I'm taking notes but it seems a bit random. Sometimes you need account for it and hit long sometimes you don't. It seems espescially random with mid-short approaches. 

  • SidersBest
    873 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 8:24 AM

    every 3 feet equal a yard and check your wind effect.

    Siders Best

  • xlviii
    502 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 10:45 AM

    SidersBest:

    every 3 feet equal a yard and check your wind effect.

    Siders Best

    +1

    Also, I subtract a yard for every four feet down. I know some who use a slightly different calculation for downhill, but that works for me.

  • kingiling
    512 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 11:44 AM

    Couple other things that factor in, uphill approaches (like > 15 ft elevation) tend to roll out more and are affected a little less by cross winds (presumably simulating the ball being in the air less time).  Hope it helps.

  • TopShelf2010
    10,968 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 12:53 PM

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  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 12:56 PM

    the11thaardvark:
    Sometimes you need account for it and hit long sometimes you don't.

    The closer you are to the hole, the less the elevation will affect your shot. This is because the angle of descent is steeper with the shorter clubs so you can't universally apply a solution. Just know that the closer you are, the less you compensate for that elevation.

  • the11thaardvark
    39 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 2:52 PM

    Thanks 

  • xlviii
    502 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 3:45 PM

    TopShelf2010:

    xlviii:

    SidersBest:

    every 3 feet equal a yard and check your wind effect.

    Siders Best

    +1

    Also, I subtract a yard for every four feet down. I know some who use a slightly different calculation for downhill, but that works for me.

    I would agree with you here. There are many holes, for me personally, where the 4 foot down works better for me as opposed to the 3 foot rule. I am not sure why this is. 

     

    Don

    I believe it's because of the arc of the ball. On a downhill shot, your ball is still in the air when it normally would have landed. As the shot continues through the air, it's rate of forward travel becomes less and less. (Wind resistance slows the object down more and more and it's forward speed decreases.) In other words, it's coming closer and closer to travelling straight down the lower it goes. On an uphill shot, the opposite happens because the ball hits the ground sooner.

    I hope that makes sense. The only time it should be very noticeable (and important to calculate differently downhill than up) is on a steep downhill shot such as CB #9, but the calculation seems to work pretty well anywhere.

  • DonCaron
    5,502 Posts
    Tue, Jun 5 2018 6:50 PM

    YankeeJim:

    the11thaardvark:
    Sometimes you need account for it and hit long sometimes you don't.

    The closer you are to the hole, the less the elevation will affect your shot. This is because the angle of descent is steeper with the shorter clubs so you can't universally apply a solution. Just know that the closer you are, the less you compensate for that elevation.

    Which is why my wedges come out long sometimes.

     

  • JimbeauC
    5,835 Posts
    Wed, Jun 6 2018 10:51 AM

    The formulas work in most instances, but are woefully wrong on certain holes. #18 Congo comes to mind. Subtracting what the formula says will come up short every time, especially to the back pin location. 

    Take notes, especially when the formula leaves you scratching your head saying WTH was that?

    :^)

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