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On Becomeing a Tour Champion

• MGB01 1,469 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 12:23 AM

  my avg seems to be dropping quickly.....3 weeks ago i think i was sat on around 57.55.....im down to 57.12 without red tee comps lol......you just have to keep going hit some 28s in the weeklys thats all i do......

• alosso 21,077 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 1:26 AM

  That's saturation!

  The margin of 28 = 56 towards your average of 57.12 isn't too big - only the elimination of former, higher scores explains the avalanche!

  OTOH, I'm afraid to say that 28s won't make you a TC @55.000 average. More grinding for lower scores will be necessary :(

• MGB01 1,469 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 2:09 AM

  alosso:

  That's saturation!

  The margin of 28 = 56 towards your average of 57.12 isn't too big - only the elimination of former, higher scores explains the avalanche!

  OTOH, I'm afraid to say that 28s won't make you a TC @55.000 average. More grinding for lower scores will be necessary :(

  yeah it needs more grind for sure alosso.....it will come when it comes

• MGB01 1,469 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 2:53 AM

  wolf b9....26 ...lost 0.4 ....now 57.08 slowly but surely lol

• DodgyPutter 4,690 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 3:05 AM

  MGB01:

  wolf b9....26 ...lost 0.4 ....now 57.08 slowly but surely lol

  Probably your 52 replaced a 60.

  (57.12 x 200 -8 /200= 57.08)

  It'll get a bit slower as the higher scores that are included get used up.

• MGB01 1,469 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 3:09 AM

  DodgyPutter:

  MGB01:

  wolf b9....26 ...lost 0.4 ....now 57.08 slowly but surely lol

  Probably your 52 replaced a 60.

  (57.12 x 200 -8 /200= 57.08)

  It'll get a bit slower as the higher scores that are included get used up.

  do they calculate from each 10 ranked rounds ..thx

• DodgyPutter 4,690 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 4:40 AM

  MGB01:

  DodgyPutter:

  MGB01:

  wolf b9....26 ...lost 0.4 ....now 57.08 slowly but surely lol

  Probably your 52 replaced a 60.

  (57.12 x 200 -8 /200= 57.08)

  It'll get a bit slower as the higher scores that are included get used up.

  do they calculate from each 10 ranked rounds ..thx

  No, although I'm afraid it seems I was wrong with my numbers as I was thinking about TC saturation being 200 rounds it sounds like Champion saturation is 750 rounds.

  Your average is the total number of strokes included divided by the number of rounds included, 750 rounds at champion it seems. In a saturated average the worst score included is replaced by any score lower than it.

  So your average at 57.12 was for around 42,840 strokes in the 750 rounds.  It then went to 57.08 with a 52 which is 42,810 strokes suggesting it replaced a 82. 

  (57.12 x 750 -30 /200= 57.08)

  I don't imagine you have many scores around 82 included so it will quickly get harder to drop your average.  Eventually only 54's or 55's will help.

  Unless I've got something wrong again :-/

• MGB01 1,469 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 2:48 PM

  ok thx for making things a little clearer appreciate your time on that.....

• jacktrade51 11,190 Posts

  Sun, Nov 17 2019 10:01 PM

  Getting to TC isn't the be all and end all.  I know a WGT member, a Champ, who played nothing but easy tees for 6 months and got to TC.  What's the point except to hang a badge on your name?

  I can give him 2 strokes I'll beat him in match play every time.  So his TC badge doesn't mean much to me.  fmagnets, birchi, and several others I know, that is different.

  It might take me 2 years longer, but I prefer to get there the normal way.  And, if and when I do, I might be able to compete with the real top players.  I like to think my game is still improving.  But there is no reason to be a TC before I'm good enough to compete with those guys.

  (With respect to averages, it's 55.00 for TC, 500 rounds minimum except some got grand-fathered on 200 rounds before last rules change.  That said, WGT has always reserved right to advance players more quickly on unspecified criteria … like winning too many WGT tournaments, for example.)

  Tom.

• DoctorLarry 4,315 Posts

  Mon, Nov 18 2019 12:55 AM

  jacktrade51:

  It might take me 2 years longer, but I prefer to get there the normal way.  And, if and when I do, I might be able to compete with the real top players.  I like to think my game is still improving.  But there is no reason to be a TC before I'm good enough to compete with those guys.

  I could not agree with this more.  I may never get past Legend, but that is fine with me if my game does not get good enough to do so.  It was a big enough shock when I tiered up last time and I am not ready for higher competition - yet!