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Wind direction inconsistent.

• oneeyedjohn 9,580 Posts

  Mon, Aug 22 2011 5:19 PM

  Look at this map of St Andrews front 9 only.

  It shows a wind direction that is completely opposite from one hole to the next, #5 & #6.

  

   

  I know it doesn't really matter in the overall scheme of things, as we take each hole on its own merit, but as someone who has played here for real many times, I just find it a little disconcerting. Knowing as you play #8 that you should have a nice tailwind down #9, but no its a bloody headwind.

  I think WGT should take more care to replicate the real thing more precisely.

  1i   " Master of the blind tee shot "

   

   

   

   

   

• thebigeasy707 5,885 Posts

  Mon, Aug 22 2011 6:20 PM

  oneeyedjohn:

  Look at this map of St Andrews front 9 only.

  It shows a wind direction that is completely opposite from one hole to the next, #5 & #6.

  

   

  I know it doesn't really matter in the overall scheme of things, as we take each hole on its own merit, but as someone who has played here for real many times, I just find it a little disconcerting. Knowing as you play #8 that you should have a nice tailwind down #9, but no its a bloody headwind.

  I think WGT should take more care to replicate the real thing more precisely.

  1i   " Master of the blind tee shot "

   

  I don't need to see a map of the front 9 at St Andy's...I've played it in real life...shot a 75 over 18 holes (very good conditions)....I played the course next to it 5 days later and had to WD on the 12th tee because the winds were reaching 50-60mph and balls were blowing backwards down the fairway as we went to take our 2nd shot.......I even stopped to help a 75yr old senior player who was being blown in the wrong direction like an empty tracksuit.

  Cool thing about St Andrews and most other links courses including RSG is that they are right next to the beach and surrounded mostly by huge f*ck off sand dunes that have a great habit of shaping the wind in every direction (that's just nature at work).... even from hole to hole if it's windy enough then the wind can differ quite a lot....just ask the seagulls who're having the shyte kicked out of their feathers as they experience the hardships of flying in high winds.

  maybe not as much sometimes as the random winds here on WGT but WGT's a game mate....and I think it does pretty good to replicate conditions and also likes to throw a few spanners in the works....don't we all know it.

  do i like it??? for me it's a love hate thing lol....but we just have to learn to deal with it....that's what improves our game.

  TBE

• oneeyedjohn 9,580 Posts

  Mon, Aug 22 2011 6:49 PM

  ^^^Don't get me wrong , I ain't complaining. I agree with you, just thought I would point out a little inconsistency.

  I've played links golf in Kent and Scotland and Holland all my life so I know a little about wind too.

  How did ya know he was 75 years old ?

  1i  " master of the blind tee shot "

• thebigeasy707 5,885 Posts

  Mon, Aug 22 2011 7:49 PM

  oneeyedjohn:

  How did ya know he was 75 years old ?

  because he was playing the front 9 with his father who told us.  :)

  nah...we chatted for a few minutes and he told me.

   

  tbe

   

• oneeyedjohn 9,580 Posts

  Mon, Aug 22 2011 10:03 PM

  LOL, old people tend to do that... I am.........oh, ne'er mind.

• KingOfTheCourse 419 Posts

  Tue, Aug 23 2011 7:58 AM

  This might have been mentioned but if WGT makes the same wind condition on every hole thru a round, there will be some players who will restart until they get the best wind possible. I don't know about you, but I don't want that.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Aug 23 2011 9:27 AM

  oneeyedjohn:

  I think WGT should take more care to replicate the real thing more precisely.

  I think it would be interesting if the wind was in the same direction for an entire round. We all know WGT treats each hole as a separate case, hence the different winds, but a nice twist might be not having this as the case.

  Does SA ever play that way for 18 IRL?

• hotcarrie 865 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2011 3:58 PM

  i think WGT should make it as close to the real course as possible. it is not hard for them to fix the wind but i dont think they employ people that can read or reply to anything that members want or suggest

• piztaker 5,743 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2011 9:52 PM

  hotcarrie:

  i think WGT should make it as close to the real course as possible. it is not hard for them to fix the wind but i dont think they employ people that can read or reply to anything that members want or suggest

   

  It's best as it is, for the reasons given by King of the Course. It's the same for everybody so where's the beef?

   

• TarheelsRule 5,563 Posts

  Sat, Oct 15 2011 3:56 PM

  It is the same for all of us but I do believe that WGT should strive to make the conditions similar to what you would find in real golf.

  In terms of St Andrews, the front nine (more or less) runs out in one direction, while the back nine (more or less) runs in again in one direction, opposite of the front.  Kiawah is very similar in that the course is laid out north to south for about half the holes and the other half in the opposite direction.

  It is strange to be on the first hole at Kiawah or St Andrews and have a 25 mph wind behind you and then have a 25 mph wind into you on the second hole, this would never happen in real golf.  Both those courses are right on the ocean and indeed the conditions change from day to day and sometimes they start to shift during a round but never from hole to hole.  I have not played RSG in real golf but I assume that course is also laid out as a links course with multiple holes moving the same direction.

  WGT has chosen to use the random wind approach from hole to hole which will always result in incorrect winds on a course.  I'd like to see it change but it seems that WGT is happy with this.