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• nerve60 287 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:07 AM

  Level 75 Master here and I don't have a clue what you all are talking about. In the last few days, my average has actually gone down and I have shot some of my best rounds. Maybe it's the way I learned to play from the beginning.  I have never payed attention to my avatar during my swing only the meter.  Go figure...

• ladyluck87 2,287 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:09 AM

  genorb:

  Ecka65:

  Fair enough, but I think my point (whilst blunt) is valid.  You should know how hard to hit it

  you are completely right. We still know more or less where the previous avatar movements were along the meter but this has some impact anyway.

  The length of the meter is the same for each club (I think, didn't check for each single club), except for a tiny difference for the putter but it's essentially the same. So 1cm along the meter represent a very short distance when you putt with the 15ft scale (around 2-3ft, but it doesn't matter for my point here if the figures are exactly right) but 1cm when you use a 220yds iron would represent 25-30 yds.

  So for putting, I don't even use avatar movement or scale glued on screen etc, nothing but feel because few millimeters doesn't represent much change in the distance, but with a long iron, 1mm is already few yds. 

  Avatar movements where used as virtual graduations along the meter. For the first few movements starting from full shot, players have calibrated their clubs by trial and errors (which takes some time). So after a large number of rounds, one knew with good accuracy the distance corresponding to those virtual graduations. And in between them, interpolation (guessestimate if you want) were used. If one decreases the number of avatar movements near fulls shot, the distance between two consecutive virtual graduations is thus increased and this has an impact on this interpolation and on accuracy of the estimated distance.

  As I already explained in another thread, they could have easily reduced the number of frames for the swing animation (going from 20 to 12) without changing the 4 first avatar movement. You keep the 4 first movement and reduced by a factor two the rest of the frames (4+16/2 = 12). This would have the same impact on loading time without changing the game play for those whose took of their time to calibrate their clubs with respect to avatar movements.

  It takes time (a lot of time) to master this game (and this is an endless process). Estimate correctly distances is one important aspect. With this change, they have affected the game play of some players. In my view, this is not respectful because those players spend time and money to try to improve their game and now they have to start again the work, spending time and money again :) .

  Regards

  i agree 100% with GENORB...wgt can leave the 1st drop and 2nd drop movement of the avatar  from full shot  and remove the rest of the movements for all i care...3rd and below movements are seldom used as u can club down......so in this sense wgt will get what they want and we players will not be effected by the change of the avatar movements..this is for all wedges right up to the driver.....

  but for putter...please do not remove all the avatar movements .....most players depend on them for putting and not  putter pal...which i find is most difficult to use as its  based on percentages.

   

• KJHAWK2 567 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 7:31 AM

  Same here. Never knew there was a change! LOL!

  THE HAWK

• misstery 705 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 8:11 AM

  WGTicon:

  Hi

  the clubs are as precise as they were. What you think of precision is not precision but just frame breaks on meter. Yes, they do make it easier to hit set distance, but it's not precision per say.

  -wgticon

  The clubs are just as precise, but the Avatar is  no longer as precise. Which is a shame as I spent alot of money on outfits for mine.

  You could also make the meter a bit shorter or longer, which also wouldn't have any effect on the clubs precision, we'd just have to adjust our feel or tape measures.The length of the meter could be changed round every month. Thus making the game more of a challenge for all players.

   

• paulshack 281 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 11:37 AM

  JuanMendoza:

  Play MPC and use other people's money for balls and clubs...

   

  whats mpc ?sorry

• skynyrdinards 95 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 4:21 PM

  I have been fairly quit with you WGT. But, I have had enough. I spend an average of 40 bucks a month on here. You guys have to keep screwing with the game. You are going to far. You said the distances weren't changed, but that wasn't true. Set the game back, get some better equipment and take care of us that have paid the way for you. It would be unfortunate for you if we decided to stop playing.

• SOYEL1 698 Posts

  Sun, Oct 2 2011 6:31 PM

  I never played by avatar movements, but suddenly I feel everything has changed and I'm playing worst than when I started with free balls and clubs. I don't know what changed, maybe is a state of mind... I'm pissed off. I might go and play poker or something else if this keeps this way...I ding the meter with left wind and ball goes left... Feel something has changed lately... and not for the better.

• Rzbk 376 Posts

  Mon, Oct 3 2011 1:18 AM

  DarSum:

  I sign up for a RG this morning. 2nd hole 73 yrd shot. Perfect distance for two movements down on my CG 80 yrd wedge. But wait. It looks like the avatar movements are further apart. Nahh, can't be. I didn't see any announcement about changing characteristics of equipment. Maybe I'm not awake yet. So I hit the shot anyway. Of course it comes up about 15 yrds short.

  Come to find out WGT has if fact changed the avatar movements. I know 2 of my wedges have been changed for sure. So that means I get to go make a practice round and map out all 3 wedges with the avatar movements again.

  You know it's sort of the same thing you do EVERYTIME you go play real golf. Didn't you know your clubs can change on you overnight sitting in your bag?

  Any reasoning why you decided to change our club characteristics on us with no announcement? Oh yeah bogeybuster has already pointed out to me it's in your terms and conditions that you can modify equipment anytime you choose. Awesome. Just freaking awesome.

  Hello all,

  I have not played enough to gain the experience needed to relate to much of  this discussion.

  However, after reading numerous posts I have realized that much of my  learning the game frustrations are shared by many.

  What really bothers me and since I haven't read each and every post I may be completely wrong, is that I see very few comments from the ones who make the decisions. 

   If my thoughts are correct, does anyone else see a problem with that seemingly lack of concern?

  Jim

   

   

   

• GoldCard 298 Posts

  Mon, Oct 3 2011 1:46 AM

  Rzbk:

  Hello all,

  I have not played enough to gain the experience needed to relate to much of  this discussion.

  However, after reading numerous posts I have realized that much of my  learning the game frustrations are shared by many.

  What really bothers me and since I haven't read each and every post I may be completely wrong, is that I see very few comments from the ones who make the decisions. 

   If my thoughts are correct, does anyone else see a problem with that seemingly lack of concern?

  Jim

   

   

   

  In so few words he says it all.

  You couldn't have put it better Rzbk :)

• Rzbk 376 Posts

  Mon, Oct 3 2011 1:46 AM

  P924:

  I just spend 25 minutes lining up which putter, wedges, irons and woods to buy, $48.00 worth. So how long will they be "effective" as advertised? I'm fairly new here and read some posts about "money grabbing" and it troubles me that there's so much tension.

   

  So will I spend this $48.00 every couple of months or every 5 months? How fast are these " game changes" occurring? Will they move the tees back too far, resulting in all of us needing better drivers?

   

  At least if we all bought $48.00 cd's we could keep the game as is and play it forever. Then as we progressed in the game, better clubs would be available as we moved back to harder tees etc.

   

  What's true is true, there isn't lag on those gaming consoles, no site maintenance, no abuse, no disconnections, no equipment going obsolete, no wicked and wild wind effects when it is only blowing gently, no cup sizes shrinking/ getting sharper and no need to pay $48 every few months.

   

  I guess my question is, should I stay here and pay or get a $48 golf game for play station and play with friends?

  Being fairly new myself means I can't begin to answer but I do think you raised a valid concern.