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Balls rolling through pins and over holes

Tue, Aug 28 2012 6:28 AM (127 replies)
  • dfDurbs
    1,061 Posts
    Mon, Jan 16 2012 7:23 AM

    oilyrag:
    your eyesight that bad is it?

    Maybe this one should go to Specsavers too? Did it lip it or hit the pin or both, and if it did hit the pin, how did it end up behind it?

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Mon, Jan 16 2012 7:27 AM

    dfDurbs:
    , and if it did hit the pin, how did it end up behind it?

    Pretty simple. It didn't hit it straight on, just grazed it. 

  • dfDurbs
    1,061 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2012 8:30 AM

    by how much did this miss the hole

    viewing it from both angles, it seems to show it crossing the hole, or at the very least lipping it, but there was no movement after it lipped

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2012 8:38 AM

    It actually never hit the cup, or just barely grazed it.

  • oilyrag
    875 Posts
    Wed, Jan 25 2012 8:39 AM

    dfDurbs:

    by how much did this miss the hole

    viewing it from both angles, it seems to show it crossing the hole, or at the very least lipping it, but there was no movement after it lipped

     

    you have to ignore the ball trail when looking at "did it or didn't it"

    the ball trails have been incorrectly mapped.

    use them only for a general feel for the break.

     

    try this, need to be quick though

     

    watch the replay again

    use camera 1

    press play

    - very quickly - place mouse near hole, right click, zoom in.

     

    alternatively

    start / pause the replay at intervals - use right click zoom to look closer.

     

  • dfDurbs
    1,061 Posts
    Mon, Jan 30 2012 8:58 AM

    oilyrag:
    start / pause the replay at intervals - use right click zoom to look closer.

     

    Please have a look at this one...my aged fingers/reflexes are not as sharp as yours.

    BTW it only ended 1.3ft from the hole, so not racing by either!!

  • oilyrag
    875 Posts
    Mon, Jan 30 2012 10:31 AM

    dfDurbs:

    oilyrag:
    start / pause the replay at intervals - use right click zoom to look closer.

     

    Please have a look at this one...my aged fingers/reflexes are not as sharp as yours.

    BTW it only ended 1.3ft from the hole, so not racing by either!!

     

     

    last one then d.

    from 3 different camera angles

    look at the ball trails - they don't match

    this should tell you that they have been incorrectly mapped and so MUST be ignored when looking at "did it or didn't it"

    i've given the explanation of what is wrong in a number of other threads - don't expect wgt to fix it

     

  • DarSum
    1,440 Posts
    Tue, Feb 7 2012 9:20 AM

    Ok let's see your reasons and pictures why this didn't go in.

     

    replay.aspx?ID=14793dc2 ad16 4f6f 8f34 9ff0011d41d1

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Feb 7 2012 9:44 AM

    Goes high from the front view. Notice the stick is not centered on the hole. This would be why the reverse view makes it look like it went right over the hole. If you center the pin in this view it effectively makes the miss easier to see and makes the reverse view look like this one.

  • oilyrag
    875 Posts
    Tue, Feb 7 2012 9:58 AM

    DarSum:

    Ok let's see your reasons and pictures why this didn't go in.

     

    read this for an explanation

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/84955.aspx

     

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