Oily, I can see from that angle that the ball goes right of the hole. When I mentioned reverse view, I meant there was a camera on the other side of the hole, facing the player, right on the green, a few feet from the hole.... After I saved that shot, that camera disappeared, I was left with 4 camera views, two front and two rear views, but only camera 1 is a few yards from the players, the others are almost useless. I had a similar shot once, the ball seemed to have stopped in the hole, like stuck against the pin, and when I wrote to WGT showing the replay, they told me that there seemed to be some misalignment, that is what I meant. I can see there that the ball goes right, but in the other camera that disappeared after saving the shot, I had a view from a couple of yards from the hole, facing the player. In that one, the ball was rolling over the hole... but that can't be seen in any of the cameras now, least from more than 60 yds views. I am not arguing that the ball was in or out, just that from about two yds from the hole, I saw the ball rolling over the hole, and it kind of went through the pin without touching it, Capisci? Thanks for your answer.