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Wed, Apr 4 2012 1:34 PM (876 replies)
  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Tue, Feb 21 2012 8:49 PM

    Bootsnbra:
    've already been accused of being unfair

    Wow, never heard that Boots, reading here off and on seems you have been nothing but a great and fair Tourney host, anyone who thinks differently...well, I'll stop now;)

  • duffer19
    3,670 Posts
    Tue, Feb 21 2012 8:51 PM

    MBaggese:

    Bootsnbra:
    've already been accused of being unfair

    Wow, never heard that Boots, reading here off and on seems you have been nothing but a great and fair Tourney host, anyone who thinks differently...well, I'll stop now;)

    like :)

     

  • ironking34
    749 Posts
    Tue, Feb 21 2012 8:57 PM

    have fun all, good night.

  • Bootsnbra
    2,322 Posts
    Tue, Feb 21 2012 9:31 PM

    ironking34:

     

    ironking34 wrote
    on 20 Feb 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Hi, please contact Bubbawatsup007, please note that results need to be posted by 5 pm pacific time on 2/23, conditions for round 4 are as follows (get some practice in before you play especially with the standard greens):  I'll add  you to the line-up going forward:

     Round 4: St Andrews Back 9
     Hole Location : Medium
     Tees: Yellow ( Medium)
     Green Speed: Standard
     Wind: Low

    EspoOrr wrote
    on 20 Feb 2012 at 4:05 PM

    Will do thx.

    ironking34 wrote
    on 20 Feb 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Hi, I already notified the tournament host that you were in as a replacement....Also, the game is to be played in Practice mode where you will be able to select specific conditions.

    EspoOrr wrote
    on 20 Feb 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Gotcha thx.

    ironking34 wrote
    on 21 Feb 2012 at 4:09 PM

     

    Hi Espo, Please note the below was posted in the winter league forum, they are giving your oppoent the win based on this, please let me know ASAP what happened in the match so I can fight their decision......

    hi boots dont know what to do here i got a message from bubbawhatsup007 who played his match earlier what do you think?

    john i just finished my round 4 match play with an alternate and this is what happened. i set the game up like we practiced. after the third hole he quit then he sent an invite with different tee locations and different shot timer we played he won by one hole. does this count? and what should i do in the future should this happen again   

     

     

    EspoOrr wrote
    on 21 Feb 2012 at 7:47 PM

    We agreed to have a play match then we had the real deal with the correct conditions. He lost. Didn''t realize he was going to be a sore loser. And that plain and simple is the story.

     

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    This is what my player is saying how do you decide who is telling the truth and who is not.

     

    Since this was discussed in an open forum I have to use what was said prior because now stories can change .. so I went back and looked at the players question he asked his captain;

    "john i just finished my round 4 match play with an alternate and this is what happened. i set the game up like we practiced. after the third hole he quit then he sent an invite with different tee locations and different shot timer we played he won by one hole. does this count? and what should i do in the future should this happen again  "

    Player Bubba clearly says he set up the match as he and his captain had practiced and then he uses the word " quit ". He doesn't say we went on to play the real match we agreed to play next or anything close to it.. he simply says your player sent in an invite with different tee locations and shot timer ......

    Most important he is asking if playing on the wrong conditions count and what to do in the future if this happens. This club is new to winter league and so it makes sense he would be asking his captain and be uncertain. He never asked for the game back he simply asked what to do in the future. I GAVE THEM THE GAME based on your player timing out. 

    While Ironking believes the players should just play it again - I was already accused of being unfair for not listening to both sides because  I based my decision on calculations of time and then it was said " Oh that wasn't the real match we were just practicing together" Problem is Player Bubba clearly says HE QUIT which tells me if they were having so many conversations as to say " Lets practice together  why wasn't Okay now lets go play the real match said instead of Player Bubba saying HE QUIT and more importantly why weren't the settings set right?

    The problem is clearly Bubba didn't want to start any crud just by not even saying Hey Man you got your settings wrong so I don't believe putting them on the field Bubba would feel comfortable playing now because he obviously wanted to avoid tension in the first place. 

    So Ironking I will give you 1/2 of what you wanted - which is the game will be replayed however since we've stressed the player Bubba out Laff N Play Choose any player on your Winter League team you want to play EspOrr  to play in Bubba's spot. I am not putting a player who tried to avoid stress on the green back on the green only to play a horrible game because he landed in c.r.a.p asking his captain what to do in future. 

    EspOrr clearly shows in his statements above he is confident in his abilities so I don't believe there is an issue there with stress for him at all.


    So there you have it.... it is what it is ....

  • Bootsnbra
    2,322 Posts
    Tue, Feb 21 2012 9:50 PM

    Reminder to all teams of what's coming up and bringing us to a close =)

    Round 5: Best of Hardest Holes Front
            Hole Location: Default
            Tees: Red(Easy)
            Green Speed:Very Fast
            Wind:Hard
    Round 6: St Andrews Front - Chosen By Last Year’s Champs Electra
    Hole Location - Hard - Chosen By United Nations Winter League Runner up Champs
    Tees - Hardest
    Greens - Standard
    Wind - Moderate

  • JohnHancock
    1,905 Posts
    Wed, Feb 22 2012 1:37 AM

    Bootsnbra:

    Yes Round  5, 6 move your people how ya want no one will be seeing the lineups except me so you can post any time =)  Just make sure if you are doing both 5 & 6 indicate which is 5 and 6 with the buttons and when round 6 comes I'll move them. If you make a mistake and need to redo it don't worry about leaving a message I'll use the last one you entered =)

    If you don't receive an alternate line-up from a team, will you assume they are sticking to their original settings?  I suggest this might make life easier rather than having to chase people.  When do you think Round 5 will be drawn?

    You are doing great work here Bootsie :)

  • TdotDoba
    2,266 Posts
    Wed, Feb 22 2012 1:46 AM

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    Bootsnbra:

    Bootsnbra:

    "john i just finished my round 4 match play with an alternate and this is what happened. i set the game up like we practiced. after the third hole he quit then he sent an invite with different tee locations and different shot timer we played he won by one hole. does this count? and what should i do in the future should this happen again  "

     

     

     

    EspoOrr wrote
    on 21 Feb 2012 at 7:47 PM

    We agreed to have a play match then we had the real deal with the correct conditions. He lost. Didn''t realize he was going to be a sore loser. And that plain and simple is the story.

     

    Again I will say has anyone asked the players what game was played under the correct conditions???? because if you take out the slanging ie "sore loser" and "being unfair" and go with the facts. 1) both players said they played a practice/play match, 2) the game was then played one says "with the correct conditions" the other says "with different tee locations and different shot timer "  I bet you will find out with that one question, what really happened. Which is they had a warm up under wrong conditions and then started the match under the correct conditions, or they had a warm up under the wrong conditions and started the match under the wrong conditions played 3 holes noticed it was under the wrong conditions and restarted under the correct conditions.... Without asking that question how can anyone make a dessicion on what should happen.

    Sorry for sticking my nose in, just think I needed to point out what I see with both their statements.

    :) Paul

     

  • TdotDoba
    2,266 Posts
    Wed, Feb 22 2012 2:07 AM

    Bootsnbra:

    "john i just finished my round 4 match play with an alternate and this is what happened. i set the game up like we practiced. after the third hole he quit then he sent an invite with different tee locations and different shot timer we played he won by one hole. does this count? and what should i do in the future should this happen again  "

    Player Bubba clearly says he set up the match as he and his captain had practiced and then he uses the word " quit ". He doesn't say we went on to play the real match we agreed to play next or anything close to it.. he simply says your player sent in an invite with different tee locations and shot timer ......

    I can see why this may be confusing Bootsie, your assuming that "i set the game up like we practiced" was with his captain, it could really have meant that he set up the game as he and his opponent practiced which could have been under the wrong conditions got noticed by his opponent and thats why he quit and resent the invite under the right conditions... so not to beat a dead horse but the players need to let you know what game was played under the right conditions.

    And now I will truly shut up about it..

    hugs Bootsie.

    your undying admirer

    Paul :)

  • 100plus
    801 Posts
    Wed, Feb 22 2012 4:48 AM

    Whoa what a mess about what was supposed to be a fun thing in the winter months.After reading through pages of jargon about bubba and his match there is a very simple solution.I will stick behind my player  who I believe did no wrong and was asking a simple ? to be accused of being a sore loser is unacceptable.

    Therefore as the captain and owner of The Laff N Play CC I hereby  forfeit Bubba,s match and also as of now I  am giving notice that The Laff N Play CC is withdrawing  from the Winter League  Tourney effective immediately. 

    100PLUS

  • Bootsnbra
    2,322 Posts
    Wed, Feb 22 2012 9:29 AM

    JohnHancock:

    Bootsnbra:

    Yes Round  5, 6 move your people how ya want no one will be seeing the lineups except me so you can post any time =)  Just make sure if you are doing both 5 & 6 indicate which is 5 and 6 with the buttons and when round 6 comes I'll move them. If you make a mistake and need to redo it don't worry about leaving a message I'll use the last one you entered =)

    If you don't receive an alternate line-up from a team, will you assume they are sticking to their original settings?  I suggest this might make life easier rather than having to chase people.  When do you think Round 5 will be drawn?

    You are doing great work here Bootsie :)

    Yep if the lineup dont come in I am going to be using this rounds for it

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