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The difference between good, great...and reality.

Tue, May 1 2012 8:40 PM (39 replies)
  • LeonDelBosque
    1,551 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 3:02 PM

    get a country

  • chris2345
    528 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 3:32 PM

    jumpmybones:

    Get  a job  !

    This is that shop or shoop guy.

     

    He clearly has lots of accounts many of which he which he writes on everyday without fail, and then quickly deletes what he has written....very strange. I think he's the one who needs to Get a Job !  and obey the T+Cs.

  • Midoh
    209 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 3:42 PM

    I've noticed that also. I think he forgot to switch accounts before he posted his trademark " get a job".   oops.

  • rglrguy
    442 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 4:35 PM

    rglrguy

    LeonDelBosque:

    x1524807:

    LOL

     

    Scoring

    Evolution of U.S. Open Scoring Records 

    1936 Tony Manero — 282 (-6)
    1937 Ralph Guldahl — 281 (-7)

     

    "Billy Burke was the first to win a major tournament with steel shafted clubs when he won the US Open in 1931. The obvious advantage of steel shafts was accuracy and durability. But they required an entirely different swing technique. The slow, languid, handsy swing of the 19th century and hickory shafts was replaced by a more precise and controlled body swing. Club head speed could now be maximized without requiring precise timing. The modern swing was born."

     

    Prior to 1906 no par was listed


    1906 Alex Smith — 295 (-33) — par was 82
    1907 Alex Ross — 302 (+10)
    1908 Fred McLeod (no par)
    1909 George Sargent — 288 (+2)
    1910 Alex Smith — 298-71 (+6)
    1911 John McDermott — 307-80 (+3)
    1912 John McDermott — 294 (+6)
    1913 Francis Quimet — 304-72 (+8)
    1914 Walter Hagan — 290 (+2)
    1915 Jerome Travers — 297 (+1)
    1916 Charles Evans — 286 (+2)
    1917-18 no championships
    1919 Walter Hagan 301-77 (+17)
    1920 Edward Ray — 295 (+7)
    1921 James Barnes — 289 (+9)
    1922 Gene Sarazen — 288 (+8)
    1923 Robert T. Jones — 296 (+8)
    1924 Cyril Walker — 297 (+9)
    1925 William Macfarlane — 291-75-72 (+7)
    1926 Robert T. Jones — 293 (+5)
    1927 Tommy Armour — 301-76 (+13)
    1928 Johnny Farrell — 294-143 (+10)
    1929 Robert T. Jones — 294-141 (+6)
    1930 Robert T. Jones — 287 (+1)
    1931 Billy Burke — 292-149-148 (+8)
    1932 Gene Sarazen — 286 (+6)
    1933 John Goodman — 287 (-1)
    1934 Olin Dutra — 293 (+13)
    1935 Sam Parks — 299 (+11)
    1936 Tony Manero — 282 (-6)
    1937 Ralph Guldahl — 281 (-7)

    1938 Ralph Guldahl — 284 (E)
    1939 Byron Nelson — 284-68-70 (+8)
    1940 Lawson Little — 287-70 (-1)

    That's some serious cherry picking of numbers.
    These are the "early years." The modern era began after the war, ie, mid-20th Century.
    Now, if you really want to talk about "breaking par" with "wooden sticks" and "dead balls," the winning score at the 1st Open Championship was 174 for 36 holes, or 87 for 18. The concept of "par" didn't even exist yet.

    The challenge is out there: Get some decent equipment and see if you can compete. 

     

    Well done Leon !

    My son is a teaching pro.........PGA member. He plays to a 3 handicap (registered). He gets his clubs custom fit by the company rep of his choice and pays below wholesale cost for his clubs and balls. I asked him why he didn't try for Q school. He calmly replied that the difference between his game and the touring pro's game, was the same difference as between his game and my game ( I am a 15 handicap). He said.....If I practice 8 hours a day, 6 days a week for years....... I might play to their level.

    Now this is a computer game........easier than the real thing. So stop whining and practice

    Or Shut-Up

  • thunderbird
    381 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 4:36 PM

    Nice write up and enjoyed your point of view.  I have been on this game for some time.  The biggest differential between the original clubs on here and the new clubs is the ability to stop the ball next to the hole.  The original clubs would hit on the green and release about 90% of the time to the middle of the green.  So you had to become an excellent putter.  

    As for the challenge about bethpage.  When, I first played the US Open some time ago there was nearly 50 players that were 68 or below.  So I don't think that it is that difficult.  A majority of players that play now in the top half of the legend category would easily break par.  If I remember correctly Avatar Lee shot 61 from the backs at Bethpage in the qualifier.

  • b0geybuster
    2,574 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 6:05 PM

    x1524807:
    I have had this challenge out for the last year. Front nine at Beth Page, white tee, moderate wind, fast green. I would like to see a legend break par, forget about 50 or 60, just break par. Put your upgrades away, come  back to the game the way it was originally given to you and show me you can break par. The legends of the old days used sticks, and a dead ball. They continually broke par, so please save the story that real players have to have better equipment  to be able to break par.

    Welcome X w/many numbers!

    We held a CC tourney, ranked 18 holes with those crappy clubs,  one person shot even par.  This is from legend Tees, so take your challenge and shove it.

    thunderbird:
    As for the challenge about bethpage.  When, I first played the US Open some time ago there was nearly 50 players that were 68 or below.  So I don't think that it is that difficult.  A majority of players that play now in the top half of the legend category would easily break par.  If I remember correctly Avatar Lee shot 61 from the backs at Bethpage in the qualifier.

    You have been proven wrong multiple times,  so just give it up.

    You continue to badger the players that put a lot of time and effort into this game and try to justify why you use those clubs!

    yes its a game, but you tend to forget its a game that has stakes, hence the term skilled gaming.

    I do not wish you a merry christmas or a happy new year!  But i do still love you!

    Cheers,

    b0gey

  • chris2345
    528 Posts
    Mon, Dec 12 2011 8:30 PM

    shoop:

    I love you man  !

    Got the right account this time...Well Done

    I'll save your need from spaming yet another thread

    Get a job ! 

     

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