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Fed up with WGT

Sat, Jan 7 2012 11:04 AM (61 replies)
  • Atlastretired
    4 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 11:23 AM

    remind me not to play any ready-go tourneys this guy plays in............-11 after 9?

    impossible..........

  • Atlastretired
    4 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 11:28 AM

    yep, same happens to me often...........you just gotta work thru it til WGT lets you shoot

    a better score!

  • Richard4168
    4,309 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 9:35 PM

    b0geybuster:
    The game is not predetermined, its simple, input and output. 

    This is where everyone's argument is. There is more to the games program then this predetermined concept you keep believing Bogey. Do you really believe the game is just click mouse on ding and the ball will land close to the hole if you've correctly calculated the distance while allowing for the wind, and aimed correctly?

    There's no need to issue a tinfoil hat Bogey unless your going to wear one too my friend.

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 10:18 PM

    This might sound silly, but have you tried not Dinging everyshot. I'm thinking because you dinging just about every shot, the game might be reacting to that :)

    -Roger

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 11:20 PM

    A couple of points.  First this, as is echoed by YJ.  I have had a number of career front 9s turn to shite on the back.  Every time, it is because I lost my edge.  It was not WGT, it was me succumbing to nerves and choking.  I've had the same happen to me on late holes in a round.  Congressional back 9, -8 after 8 and bogey the last.  Yesterday, January Open at Kiawah, -12 after 16, finished the last two holes at +1.  Conversely, some of the best back 9s I have ever played came following mediocre front 9s.

    The second point goes to the question of ding.  I am a feel player.  Unless a shot I am attempting is dead straight, I only play for the ding on drives.  Approaches, putts, chips, etc, I play spin or curve.  I disagree with the 'If you don't ding, all bets are off' line of reasoning.  I have never found any correlation between the consistency of my shots and whether I am dinging or curving.  If I hit my mark on the meter, the ball goes where I want for the most part, whether that mark is the ding, or is a couple of centimeters before the ding due to a R-L wind, or a couple centimeters after the ding due to the green breaking L-R.

    Lastly, someone mentioned this earlier.  I do not think WGT focuses on individual players.  If there is a program written to 'even things out' or something of that nature, I would think it would affect everyone rather equally.  However, I am on the best string of golfing at WGT that I've had since I have been here.  My last 10 rounds, 8 of them were sub-30 or sub-60.  So, if I was asked, I would have to say the game seems more consistent and easier of late.

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 11:27 PM

    callawayjay:
    The Legends of this game hit 300 yard bombs with their mighty 3 woods in WGT.  Consistently!

    Uh, I am a Legend, and I have the best 3 Wood WGT makes.  Only once have I ever hit a 300y 3 Wood, and that was high wind at SA and it rolled forever on the green.

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Fri, Jan 6 2012 11:35 PM

    MBaggese:
    10 9 hole rounds for many of the best is about 2.5 hours, watch BiB's and SunCity's videos on YouTube...under 15 minutes per 9 hole.

    Of course, the less shots it takes to get around, the less time the game will take, so the better players can play 9 in less time than most because it takes less shots.  I managed a -14 at Kiawah in 29 minutes.  It was a CC tourney, I started my round with 36 minutes left in the tourney and finished with 7 minutes to spare.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Jan 7 2012 6:51 AM

    JaLaBar:
     I disagree with the 'If you don't ding, all bets are off' line of reasoning.

    This goes to the expectations of the shot setup with regard to the results you get when missing the ding when you don't intend to. Some think a bare miss should give close results while in actuality this is pretty much controlled by "luck of the draw" on the subsequent deviated result. More often than not you do get a decent result (your own success is proof) but when that wild one shows up the blame for it goes to missing that ding.

  • Spacklero
    386 Posts
    Sat, Jan 7 2012 10:18 AM

    I dont know if this has been covered before and apologies if it has but....if a player chooses to play the miss hit as a regular part of their game, as I do on drives, could that offset the effect of the deviations you experience?

    What i mean is if the game gets "harder" as I play "better" and if better means hit more dings, could I fool the game  somehow by miss hitting on purpose.... i.e the game thinks im playing badly so doesnt deviate as much?

    Just a thought I had.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Jan 7 2012 10:23 AM

    Spacklero:
    .if a player chooses to play the miss hit as a regular part of their game, as I do on drives, could that offset the effect of the deviations you experience?

    I totally believed that back when I used that method regularly as a TM. I still think it's in play now even though I don't use it anymore. Just the fact that I have as many bad shots as I do when I'm trying is enough to have me still think it. Might be a little tin-foilish but makes sense to me because I hardly ever see the really wild deviations I read about here.

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