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PUTTING - Gauging break and power (a formula and work in progress).

• saltiresfan 2,266 Posts

  Fri, Apr 13 2012 6:07 AM

  @G0LD - the problem I'm having is assigning the correct values to get the count. Logic dictates that for a series of level 1 breaks the feet to the hole and to the right will be equal. For example if the count is 10 and there are 10 lines on a 20 foot putt you will aim 20 above the hole. However this has been too far with what are gentle breaks.

  Do you always call it 1 if there is any movement at all on the mini-ball or do you call it 0 if it's barely moving?

  I tend to be over-breaking my putts using this at present.

  It seems to me that if we try to greatly simplify this the break is the same as the putt length for level one speed, 2x it for level two speed etc.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Fri, Apr 13 2012 5:41 PM

  Saltire., first internalize the pace of ticking seconds, and apply that to the measurement of speed; namely, that of the moving dots along each break line. 1 = 10 seconds, 2 = 8 seconds, 3 = 6 seconds, 4 = 4 seconds, 5 = 2 seconds. With that in mind, you can assume that very slow moving dots amount to fractions that have to be counted. Note that I personally start counting halfway to shorten the process, and therefore assign the numerical value 1 to dots moving at a pace of 5 seconds along half the break line.

  If I can be of further help, let me know.

• Dean2110 43 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 4:08 AM

  LOL, I think this bloke just may be the lovechild of Shakespeare and Isaac Newton> *rushes away to get his slide rule and abacus * 

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 9:44 AM

  :-)

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 11:43 AM

  FWIW, this method is alarmingly accurate. If you bother to take the time to use it I have no doubt 2 things will happen. 1-Any putt becomes a tap in if you don't sink it. 2-You will see what you need to see to eventually be able to putt by feel.

  I found that once you get the hang of it, it becomes real easy to do the math quick. The hardest thing is rating the speeds of the dots at first but after you see enough of them that too will come easier. Then you find yourself adding the speeds up as you rate each line and then it's simply (distance X dot speed) / lines.

  Fascinating, Gold, more so because it pretty much validates the way I've been doing it for a long time, just with numbers.  :-)

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 11:48 AM

  Thank you, Jim; players like you make me glad I put in the effort to share my formula.

  :-)

• GARRYCARTER 1,533 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 1:02 PM

  Very true YJ tried & only missed because I got it wrong this is really good,Nicely worked out Gold.

  GC.

  YankeeJim:

  FWIW, this method is alarmingly accurate. If you bother to take the time to use it I have no doubt 2 things will happen. 1-Any putt becomes a tap in if you don't sink it. 2-You will see what you need to see to eventually be able to putt by feel.

  I found that once you get the hang of it, it becomes real easy to do the math quick. The hardest thing is rating the speeds of the dots at first but after you see enough of them that too will come easier. Then you find yourself adding the speeds up as you rate each line and then it's simply (distance X dot speed) / lines.

  Fascinating, Gold, more so because it pretty much validates the way I've been doing it for a long time, just with numbers.  :-)

   

• HDBanger 348 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 1:43 PM

  G0LD:

  Jim, logic dictates that two consecutive break lines of equal numerical value (speed of the "dots"), but of opposite directions, cancel each other and amount to 0.

  Spock!  I been watching a lot of the original Star trek series lately, and this made me smile.  Now I'm picturing Spock and Captain Kirk on the links!  I suck bad at putting, I am going to give this technique a whirl. Thanks Gold, err Spock.. :)

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Sat, Apr 14 2012 2:08 PM

  Thank you all for the kind words.

  Spock ;-)

• LiitleJoe 7 Posts

  Mon, Apr 16 2012 12:46 PM

   I am a new comer to this game and just learning some of the intricacies of this game. This unbelievable mathematical formula for putting is astounding to me, but it indicates an inability to get close to the pin in the first place. That is the key to success in this game not all the analytical number crunching for long putts. When I see the leader board in the closest to the pin games, I see numbers like 64 or 65, that comes out to about an average distance of 7 feet from the pin on each hole. Derive a formula that teaches me how to do that and I will gladly crank the numbers out for each shot. Till then I'll stick to the basic knowledge already available for distance computation in putting, just use a little kentucky windage for a long putt, and get close enough to drop a short second putt. Even with all of that computation, I doubt you are holing very many 40 and 60 foot putts. Have a little fun now and then.