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PUTTING - Gauging break and power (a formula and work in progress).

Sun, Jul 8 2012 5:47 PM (125 replies)
  • AccurateDriver
    54 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 11:06 AM

    Okay I have made a program to run this equation and it works correctly with the example G0LD gives in his explanation but I havent tested it out extensively . This is just version 1 so I will be imporving it as I learn more about it. I can not attach the file to the post so I will need to email it to anyone who wants to take a look at it. I can shoot the source code to anyone that wants to see that.

  • G0LD
    358 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 7:53 PM

    Wow, right on! Do test it, but keep in mind that the formula works to the extent that your initial gauge and break value are accurate. Likewise, the rational treatment of an hypothesis, however sound or logical it is, doesn't guarantee truth. Only the consistency of this hypothesis with reality does.

  • WeidaDeNei
    298 Posts
    Mon, Feb 27 2012 8:46 PM
    Perfectly put G0LD... Any program created by human is only as good as the human is at putting (Virtually)... I have spoke with you G0LD about this very thing... No matter what... any program you try to create will have error because... You have to make sure the NUMBERS you use to dictate break speed are consistent and precise enough to be used under different circumstances... Uphill and downhill putts are effected differently even if the break line speed is close to the same... Putts from start to finish will take on more and less break during the putt... Which will cause need for adjustments... Distance is still a big concern... I judge it as if I miss the putt on the HIGH side of the break 1 to 2 ft past the hole I am happy with it... I started using the G0LD method after my original post... A couple weeks in and my putting has greatly approved... Now... I am a perfectionist at heart so once I start something I go to all lengths to make it work... Things I do not mentioned by the OP 1. I took a stopwatch to judge break speed (I know... taking it to far, lol) 2. My break graph is speeds 1-8... 1 being the least and 8 being the most possible break. 3. I read my break grids through Pitch... More consistent in the manner that I can calculate FULL grids rather then Half or quarter grids.. 4. I practiced my method and only took down calculations when my putts went IN... and only if... So I could create as much consistency as possible.. 5. Last but not least I calculate distance... Then add an additional 3 ft for any putts uphill... 2 ft for anything flat... and 1 ft or nothing to downhill... I want ALL of my putts to go long if missed... If I leave a putt short I created a major error... I would rather leave myself 5 ft back at the hole rather then .2 inches short... 6. Because of the added strength in my putts I dont have to mess with break as much... So i had to adjust to that.. Sorry for the rambling... Hope this may help some people... G0LD did a great thing to make it at least understandable... Gave me an avenue and my putting is getting better every day!!! See u all on the course!!!
  • G0LD
    358 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 7:29 AM

    Good post, Weida, which I welcome as a useful contribution. Toggling between pitch and putt view to see the break from 2 different angles is a worthwhile effort, indeed, started by no less than BolloxinBruges (see youtube video). The stop watch is a tricky refinement, which can add precision to the gauge. The greater the effort you put into putting, as into anything else in life, the greater the chances that you will proudly succeed. Laxity leads to mediocrity, which in turn leads to a nauseous feeling of underachievement. As for muscling putts past their normal power value to avoid coming short of the hole, I would advise caution and recommend moderation. The added power will straighten your putting line somewhat, and may cause you to lip out or miss altogether, perhaps enough past the hole that the risk of a bogey on a birdie putt will become a painful possibility. 

  • WeidaDeNei
    298 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 10:00 AM

    Great point G0LD... And something I did not mention... (Lip Outs)... With the increased distance added Lip Outs certainly increase... (SEE MY REPLAYS FOR A PERFECT EXAMPLE) But what I have found out is the more that I am getting use to it the more putts are dropping dead and center...

    It almost seems like the game is favoring me for being more agressive with it... Now this is in no way fact... Just the way I feel..

    The number one key here is to mess around with it until you find a little something that works... then just try to stick with it until it becomes second nature.

  • G0LD
    358 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 1:48 PM

    "The number one key here is to mess around with it until you find a little something that works... then just try to stick with it until it becomes second nature."

    Indeed!

  • CyberTwiXX
    91 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 2:14 PM

    OMFG!! Reading this thread makes me not want to putt ever again. If I had to make these calculations every time I putt I would kill myself.......just takes the fun out of the game. I read and judge the greens with my eyes and go with my instincts, I couldn't imagine having to use a program to figure out my putts.

  • WeidaDeNei
    298 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 2:37 PM
    "just takes the fun out of the game" .... FOR YOU... That is ur opinion... which is great... But Math and calculation is not only fun to me... It is actually nice to continue to make my brain work and solve problems... Why do people like sudoku puzzles? because they make u think hard to solve a problem. Why is that such a problem to take that same thinking into this game.. To me personally.. It is fun... And I have not thought about hanging myself once. To each their own
  • oneeyedjohn
    9,581 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 3:07 PM

  • AccurateDriver
    54 Posts
    Tue, Feb 28 2012 4:44 PM

    the expression shouldnt be "its not rocketscience" it shoud be "its not putting on WGT"

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