Forums

Let us, once and for all, debunk an old myth about slow meter clubs at the master level and above.

• Topcat488 172 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 9:45 AM

  If they were to make the clubs slower (which never ware out)... Whose gonna buy those Nike, and Callaway balls?  Trust your own instincts, but take a look at the slow putters that these top players are using... It's only human nature too take the easy route.  Makes no $ cents.

• Steve442 710 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 10:14 AM

  Topcat488:

  Trust your own instincts, but take a look at the slow putters that these top players are using...

  They're not using them because they are slow but because of the precision.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 10:14 AM

  Sorry, Leon and Topcat, but your line of reasoning is flawed. Those who accept the compromise of lower, if relatively high club performance in exchange for a slower meter obviously find the game overly difficult, when forced to play with the best fast meter clubs. For them, the game merely becomes more manageable and enjoyable.

  If you have the luxury of great eye and hand coordination, allowing you to ding your fast meter clubs fairly consistently, all the more power to you, but please keep in mind that thousands out there are struggling, and would greatly welcome the help of a slower meter.

  Also, you appear to assume that virtual golf is mastered to the extent that you ding your shots. That is not true. Dinging your shots is admittedly a key factor, but the mastery of the game preeminently involves a great sense of observation, matched by a great memory and judgment, together with a great mathematical and geometrical sense. If a player is lacking in those essential respects, ding or no ding, he will fair poorly.

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 10:54 AM

  Its simple to figure out Gold. WGT keeps upping the precision of the clubs including the swing speed, but slows down the swing speed with a ball that has three dots of feel and four dots of spin which makes a 3 iron perform like a wedge.

  G0LD:

  Dinging your shots is admittedly a key factor, but the mastery of the game preeminently involves a great sense of observation, matched by a great memory and judgment, together with a great mathematical and geometrical sense. If a player is lacking in those essential respects, ding or no ding, he will fair poorly.

  Ding is king first and foremost. The player who can ding shots the most consistently will be the better player, always. Being this is a video game, having a memory to know where the best place to land the ball on the green is also key.

  Mathematical and geometrical, I'm not so sure about this being the norm to play this game. It may work for some, but most players are playing by feel, memory, and notes.

  I suppose it's a matter of opinion in some respects too.

• zagraniczniak 1,984 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 10:57 AM

  In the short run: If two players are both capable of placing their approach shot within an easy birdie distance, they will both make birdie - regardless of which one is ultimately more skilled. You can't over-make a putt.

  In the long run, the more skilled player will prevail, but the margin of error can be awfully small. Golf is not a game of perfection.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 11:26 AM

  Richard, you are partly right, unquestionably, and the facts you highlight indeed speak volumes. And yet there are many players who handle the meter well, without ever rising to excellence. Why? Because there is more to the game than dings. Likewise, a real golfer may never be a great one, even if he can hit the sweet spot more often than not, albeit such a skill clearly constitutes a major advantage. Anyway, my initial post still stands, unshaken.

• LeonDelBosque 1,551 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 11:28 AM

  G0LD:

  Sorry, Leon and Topcat, but your line of reasoning is flawed

  not

  Your argument is illogical. You say it will be easier ... but not easier. So which is it? You say many people struggle with hitting fast metered clubs... but then you say hitting the ding doesn't matter.

  I say it will be easier for possibly thousands of players, who know what to do but can't do it. So the game will be, um, easier. How is that flawed reasoning? 

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 11:42 AM

  Oh la la! Leon, you use a simplistic black and white approach to make me sound idiotic. You are obviously offended by my rebuttal, and I am truly sorry about that, but there is no need to turn my argument on its head by cutting its legs.

• Doublemochaman 2,009 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 11:54 AM

  It was fun to go to thedeviations.com and watch BolloxInBruges play several holes.  Not a super high percentage of dings.  But the guy sure knows where to put the ball on the green.

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 11:59 AM

  Doublemochaman:

  But the guy sure knows where to put the ball on the green.

  Precisely my point. After several thousand practice and ranked rounds, anyone stands a chance to be a top performing player in this game. It just won't come easy for the casual player, real or virtual alike.