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Let us, once and for all, debunk an old myth about slow meter clubs at the master level and above.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 7:05 PM

  In some ways, yes Richard, my responses have been "vague," when I felt that otherwise I would have labored an obvious point. But let me spell a couple of things that you know without apparently knowing that you know them (amusing paradox). When you try to determine the aim of your shots, you have to factor the lie you are shooting from and the topography or distinct characteristics of your landing area to the hole, together with the direction and velocity of the wind in your path. The more precise are your calculations, the more your shots are accurate, provided you ding them. The ding is what allows your shots to be consistent with these calculations, instead of being at the mercy of the ever so fickle lady luck.

• mohuyu 891 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 7:07 PM

  

  To me G0LD makes perfect sense. A new set of irons with a slower meter will have no impact on the difficulty of the game in terms of scores achieved, as long as the new irons have slightly inferior specifications. Most of the elite only take two factors into consideration anyway, namely the precision and stopping power. Notice the extremely large gap in performance between the g20s and the burners that could be filled with an iron set of similar specs to the existing i15s. Such a set is not likely to shave stroke's off one's game, but might offer those struggling to just hit a straight shot some consistency.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Thu, Mar 8 2012 7:12 PM

  Indeed, mohuyu, except that the scores of lesser players would likely improve, if the fast meters were for them a major and maddening handicap!

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 6:29 AM

  G0LD:

  When you try to determine the aim of your shots, you have to factor the lie you are shooting from and the topography or distinct characteristics of your landing area to the hole, together with the direction and velocity of the wind in your path. The more precise are your calculations, the more your shots are accurate, provided you ding them. The ding is what allows your shots to be consistent with these calculations, instead of being at the mercy of the ever so fickle lady luck.

  First, I don't find aiming that difficult and I'm sure you don't either judging by the scores you post.

  We play for ding, but the beauty part about the best equipment is the high precision those clubs have. We can still have an effective shot if we do miss ding. Depending of course we miss on the opposite side of ding the wind is blowing. This is where the luck factor takes place. I mentioned in another thread that this game was 100% luck, but I was wrong about that. I would say it's more like 40% luck.

  As far as a clubs swing speed, it's all player preference. I find the R11 clubs coupled with a Callaway, Nike, or even a GI2-SD2 WGT ball makes my meter speed quite adequate. I may not be able to ding every shot, but that's not the swing speeds fault, it's the fault of my reflexes not being able to stop the meter on ding.

  Are you wanting this game to take on more of a carTWOn approach, and control the ball to the pin with a better degree of accuracy? This would be lunacy. This game plays incredibly like real golf and doesn't need anything changed IMO.

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 7:06 AM

  Again, Richard, with all due respect, I beg to disagree, at least in part. You say that you don't find aiming difficult, because with experience you have developed a keen sense of what works, and the whole process is now for you second nature. Look at the players in lower tiers. Many of them may very well handle the meter with relative ease, especially with good, slow meter clubs like the Raptures or the K15's, and yet their level of play doesn't rival yours, let alone that of bolloxinbruges whose superior skill in making the right judgment call for every approach shot was the object of your admiration in an earlier post. You even wrote, and I quote, "After several thousand practice and ranked rounds, anyone stands a chance to be a top performing player in this game. It just won't come easy for the casual player, real or virtual alike."

  And yes, Richard, "a club's swing speed is all a player's preference." Read mel1950's post, whose physical condition calls imperatively for a slower meter. He is not alone, and the game doesn't lapse into some shameful travesty of golf if it caters to his special needs, and enables him to enjoy this game as you do. Multiple choices, to expand the reach of our diversity of freedoms, that is what I am advocating.

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 7:48 AM

  @Gold. I did not make my reference to Bollox the object of my admiration, that's ridiculous for you to say. I was stating a fact of this game.

  The lower level players are coming up through the tiers with better equipment then I or a lot of other tenured players did. They have a better choice of clubs to choose from with plenty of differing attributes. This game is enjoyable for players of all tiers.

  Gold, your not being clear with what your trying to convey in this thread. All your doing is taking excerpts from peoples posts and twisting them to satisfy your baseless argument. Which by the way I have yet to figure out. Give us your point once and for all and try not to convey it like we're reading from a Ernest Hemingway novel.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 8:41 AM

  I got through all my Lit. classes using CliffsNotes, just no time to read with all the math and geometry homework I guess.  I found these useful today.

    

• G0LD 358 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 9:04 AM

  Amusing, andyson, thanks for the laugh. 

  As for my false assumption about an earlier post of yours, Richard, which was in response to another post about the wizardry of bollox, I gladly apologize, tho I fail to see it as truly significant or offensive. And if by now you have not grasped the meaning and validity of my initial post and of my other comments, so be it; I have nothing to add.

• GerryTS 122 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 9:11 AM

  Now that is funny Andy. 

• gsoup 2,929 Posts

  Fri, Mar 9 2012 9:32 AM

  so what happens to the people with the reaction time of a sloth, would that be better or worse that the reaction time of a mongoose? just wondering

  and speaking of mongooses' and sloths, i think im gonna go get on my mongoose and sloth my way down some  single track so i dont kill myself