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Whistler greens...please modify

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Fri, Mar 23 2012 4:58 AM

  The greens on Whistler are the toughest in WGT. 

  I think the Greens have to be like that. Getting to the Green is quite easy (if you stay out of Big Trouble), I had my first 10 since I was a Hack a couple of weeks ago, I hit a Tree on a approach shot on #3 that went into the creek and what looked like 'A Lost World' where I was hitting from...lol.

  Still like the course, but I do way too much thinking on the Greens for my liking. Maybe that could be my problem...I should just read the line and hit it without taking too much time... don't know.

  I noticed tonight , If I can get close enough (5 to 15ft) if not closer to the pin... it has to be below hole on most of the greens. If your left or right, then there are huge rolls. Above the hole, then it's downhill most of the time.  Try not to use too much bspin if any on the approach

  -Roger

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Fri, Mar 23 2012 5:32 AM

  Whistler can be tough but can also be easy,  all you have to do is know where to land, the greens are much more accurate than Cabo, and its worth double checking breaks with chip view too as it will give you a truer vision of breaks, so you can compare both views. I had a 3 foot putt, the putter view showed i had slope going from left to right i was left side of a valley, i look at chip view, the break was from right to left, on cabo & whistler chip view seems truer on some holes so i went with it, ball DID TURN RIGHT, so the chip view was true, BUT, i missed the putt and was 4 feet other side, this time i went with chip view again but this time it was false and the different break of putter view was true!  yes, there are 1 or 2 minor break flaws but not in the same league as cabo #11!  You expect this from trugolf!

  .Personally i think Whistler is one of the most fun & sometimes easier courses here (depending on where you land on greens)  Won 6 Ready go's there all ready (2 in a row yesterday) and was gutted not to score better than 55.   Like 12 for example, its best to try and lay up directly below hole (east), because if you're short or long and have diagonal up hill putt towards hole, ball will then turn near hole and momentum will roll it back down due to the angle and you will have long putt again.  And #2, its always best to punch onto green, or if not in punch shot range use topspin so ball doesn't roll back, #4 doesn't really matter if you over shoot hole a bit as slope will roll ball back down to within yard or 2 of hole.

  But yes, the greens are tough, but seeing as the holes are so short its the only way to make course challenging otherwise it would be birdies/eagles every single hole!  Just get to know where to land for easier putts, (although there's nasty breaks on even 3 footers.LOL)

  Also take notice of colour of grids too, like i had 30 foot putt earlier, slope indicator said zero slope, but it was obvious i had downhill putt and grid colours showed red meaning DOWNSLOPE, so do take notice of these colours too, just in case: Red=downslope, blue=upslope, black=flat

  Eagle putt showed no slope but squares are red so i hit this 30 foot  putt (no slope indicated) with 18 feet of power!

  http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=14881ef5-a607-4556-a5f9-a01d00d1dfe6

• thebigeasy707 5,885 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 7:16 AM

  GoodyChamp:

  Whistler, a gr8 course 2 play from tee 2 green.

  Putting....doesn't make sense at all...even the shortest of birdieputts can result in a bogey. Big shame 4 such a wonderful course.

  Please modify greens WGT, otherwise no play 4 me anymore....:-( :-(

  Cheers, GC

  I've completely given up on Whistler till they fix the greens. I mean when break shows huge swing from right to left and reverse view shows the same and chip view show right to left big swinging break.....it's just not acceptable that the putt breaks huge left to right and the exact opposite of what all the reads show.....so@Chris....it don't really matter where the hell you land on the green if your 3 ft putt swings the totally opposite direction to all the reads and misses the cup completely by 12 inches does it?

  A lot of the greens are truly false and it makes the course pretty much a lottery....maybe that's what WGT want...who knows.

  I'm not playing it from now on either...not even in RG's....it just too much of a joke.

  Most likely whoever mapped the greens was tripping on acid at the time.

  tbe

• manabouttown11 573 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 7:35 AM

  thebigeasy707:

  Most likely whoever mapped the greens was tripping on acid at the time.

  I want some of what the designer was on. Maybe i will be able to play it then lol.

• GIMMMEEE 224 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 7:39 AM

  .. Its a shame the only way they can produce a course without unreal scoring is to screw the greens up beyond belief......         I thought i conquered one of the holes, the approach almost went in then was going to stop 2 feet from the pin, until another slope kicked in leaving me 16ft.. .. the replay is on my profile..............  like everyone else, tee to green is great, but those greens are frightening....................

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 8:23 AM

  thebigeasy707:

  I've completely given up on Whistler till they fix the greens.

  I doubt they will ever be modified.

   

• Jerm65 1,413 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 8:26 AM

  Two things to add / comment on:

  1)  Whistler's in a rainforest and gets 178 days of rain / snow each year.  That's every second day!  From May to September (effective golf season up here in Tundra-Land), it averages 850mm (34 inches) of rain, so the greens rarely get a chance to dry out.  The nasty slopes and crazy breaks are needed simply to avoid them being stupidly easy.  The greens (IRL) probably never get much faster than about 8 or so on the stimp, so when they're cranked up to 12 or 13 on here, it's no wonder putting is a nightmare.  They weren't designed to be played that fast!

  2) Mapping the greens.  A 2 foot grid works fine on most courses....but not so well on Whistler, since you can have 2 totally different breaks over that 2-foot width.  I've always taken the break shown by the putting grid to be the average for that 2-foot grid square, but not necessarily consistent across the entire width.  The break on the fraction of an inch that your ball line comprises....may or may not be the same as the average.  Nowhere is this more evident than at Whistler.  ChrisBones is on the right track by using the chip-view....the grid is movable, so it's easier to discover where the break changes direction.

  I suspect that on VF greens....Whistler becomes the "playable" course it was designed to be.

• Fuzzypines 3 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 8:31 AM

  Wow...I haven't 3 putted that many greens since the day I started!!

• Kriztjan 1,437 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 2:24 PM

  im playing that course again, as TBE alreasy said, tough greens but pinnplacements are a joke.

• tlkibbee 3 Posts

  Tue, Mar 27 2012 3:58 PM

  Redickulous WGT would charge credits first play. Hope they lose thier ass with this one. Should at least allow couple free 9s