r11's, just calculate, full back spin, let it rip and it ends up next to cup from 220 yards Spaghetti kid? Are you freakin serious? This statement from somebody who has never hit these clubs? This is why most of the people who know anything about this game stay out of the forums. Holy crap, what a load of sh!t this thread is. Wonder why the mods didn't shut it down? Because it's CRAP and WGT looks better and better with each post. Notice I don't have a WGT nation flag next to my icon, because I have been very critical of WGT in the past. Where you guys are going with this is beyond my realm. Good luck with that. Sorry in advance to those who are gonna rip me, just my point of view. JB P.S Spagh kid, if you hit full backspin with r11's with nike ball, plan on being 20 yards short most shots.