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At last! An Uneven Lies tourney... but...

• Bidi 1,948 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 8:45 AM

  TY WGT for this tournament!!! i really love it! finally a challange again with the game and not a DARTS contest!!!

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 10:45 AM

  Hey guys:)

  We are just starting unroll these, so don't worry, it'll be you soon.

  Until then, I recommend practicing on them :D

  -wgticon

• tiffer67 1,764 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 11:01 AM

  I hate being negative over such an important issue for the ongoing advancement of WGT but I really don't understand what is being created here? Is this a development that is intended to mimic real life golf or is it merely to make the game harder?

  I am a golfer rather than a gamer. I welcome the concept and evolution of uneven lies, it is without doubt essential for the long term sustainability of this game. I do however really question the physics being applied to the variables of uphill/downhill lies & ball above/below the feet.

  Anyone who plays real golf to a decent standard knows ball below feet will generally produce a fade/push. Ball above your feet will in all likelihood produce a draw/pull. A players stance and adjustment in swing plane can alleviate these effects on the ball. Without these factors being included in the game for the time being it is a matter of aiming well left or right to combat it. Not a problem however I think the current effect on direction/distance is ridiculously exaggerated, particularly with the wedges. I still think some work needs done regarding this.

  Great to have a tournament though, I am enjoying the challenge of it.

• gmaster007 2,101 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 11:21 AM

  WGTicon:

  Hey guys:)

  We are just starting unroll these, so don't worry, it'll be you soon.

  Until then, I recommend practicing on them :D

  -wgticon

  it's very exciting and all,
  but why not wait for UEL mode to be fixed first?
  
  it hasn't been fixed or even improved yet, and STILL plays very very unrealistic,
  causing the ball to respond very violently to the slightest skews on the surface,
  bunker and rough shots defy the laws of physics,
  and even shooting from an almost flat fairway
  can fly the ball all the way to the other side.

  I think it would've been wise to wait
  before creating UEL tournaments,
  especially when you know it's still severely flawed

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 12:14 PM

  tiffer67:

  Anyone who plays real golf to a decent standard knows ball below feet will generally produce a fade/push. Ball above your feet will in all likelihood produce a draw/pull. A players stance and adjustment in swing plane can alleviate these effects on the ball. Without these factors being included in the game for the time being it is a matter of aiming well left or right to combat it. Not a problem however I think the current effect on direction/distance is ridiculously exaggerated, particularly with the wedges. I still think some work needs done regarding this.

  Great to have a tournament though, I am enjoying the challenge of it.

  I posted a similar comment when uneven lies first came out. We really need the ability to draw or fade the ball via the backspin dot. Move the dot to the left to draw. Move the dot to the right to fade. Up and down is still in use for topspin or backspin.

• borntobesting 9,740 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 1:08 PM

  gmaster007:

  it hasn't been fixed or even improved yet, and STILL plays very very unrealistic,
  causing the ball to respond very violently to the slightest skews on the surface,
  bunker and rough shots defy the laws of physics,
  and even shooting from an almost flat fairway
  can fly the ball all the way to the other side.

  Well there should be an update coming in the next few days so maybe they feel they have it right now.

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 3:48 PM

  hyena64:

   I see complaints, but no feedback.

  I've posted my feedback on it. Didn't feel like a complaint to me.

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 3:50 PM

  hyena64:

  gmaster007:

  it hasn't been fixed or even improved yet,

  While still somewhat unrealistic, it has been improved. This was evident from my first foray when it just came out to the first tourney we had on the lies. It's not there yet, but it has gotten better. And what better way to get feedback than to have tourneys, as I don't see anymore feedback on it in the forums, as most people aren't playing them. I see complaints, but no feedback.

  We are getting feedback but it's always the same. It's either we need draw and fade or the Unevens is too severe. Frankly I love it to death just as it is.I think the real problem has been the amount of time many have played the unrealistic lies. Once you play in bunkers that are no challenge and fake lies on Olympic, Oakmont, and RSG the uneven lies seems too severe. IMO the unrealistic lies has been too easy all along.

  I'm a little miffed I have to wait until Jan 1st to play in one of WGT's Uneven Lie Tourneys. I've practiced it from the first day they offered it in practice mode.

  Best of luck to all the TL's that venture to play the Uneven Tourney. Hit 'em crooked and putt 'em straight.

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Wed, Dec 26 2012 3:59 PM

  DarSum:

  hyena64:

   I see complaints, but no feedback.

   

  I've posted my feedback on it. Didn't feel like a complaint to me.

   

  I know you're one of the big axes so I'm listening to anything you have to say about the uneven lie play. If you think it, just say it.

  If you haven't already done it play a round on Olympic with the unevens as soon as possible. That's the best course to feel it out. The ground lies produce the draws and fades you need to hit it close to pins. The course was designed that way. Ball above your feet in the fairway when the pin is cut on the left and below when it's cut on the right.Only a few holes are opposite and they're the most likely holes to only make par. The Pros did the same in the US Open.  Let yourself be taken on the journey that the course designer had planned all along. It's an amazing course. Oakmont, another stellar playing uneven lies course where the ground shows you the way to play.