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Stuck on Tour Master

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Fri, Feb 8 2013 7:39 PM

  Woogmoog:

  I disagree too, nothing is working, I can have +5 and my avg doesn't go up. I had -8 and my avg didn't drop. I'm not going anywhere! lol dam.

  I had to spy on your scoring history...sorry....lol

  Lets forget about beating people at a higher Tier than you are in regards to Average dropping....  Not sure but I thought that rule for average drop was for people in Lower Tiers than yourself.   Eg if a Pro beats a legend, then the Average will drop.  Maybe if you beat the a Legend 10 times in a row you Average may go down, not sure

  Anyway... your Average is 62.  You need to shoot scores lower than this for your average to go down.  Looking at your Score History you haven't done this.

  You need to shoot 30/61 for average to go down.  

  Your Average is worked out on the last X games played (not sure how many) maybe 10 for example.  Each score low you shoot will basically kick out the highest score in that group of 10 games.   If you shoot a 29 your average will go down... The next game,  you shoot a 33 and if your average goes down it means the game has chucked out the 38 you shot yesterday (not saying you shot 38, just an example)

  If you really want to get promoted....  If your allowed to,  start a weekly easy comp on your favorite course in your CC and just hit it hard and make sure it's a 9 hole comp, because they are easier.

  For me I found playing all the courses and conditions, ya get to the stage, stuff it..lol   lets get over the line.  So From Legend to TL I started a Beth Front9 unlimited comp in my cc and just hit it hard... until I got Promoted

  The Average for Promotion to Legend is 61... heaps of time left for you... so just have fun :)

  Good Luck :)

  Roger

   

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Sat, Feb 9 2013 2:19 AM

  mantis0014:

  Anyway... your Average is 62.  You need to shoot scores lower than this for your average to go down.  Looking at your Score History you haven't done this.

  You need to shoot 30/61 for average to go down.

  This is what Dazza said, it's true for a non-saturated average without influence of match play wins against higher tiers. Alas, W's average is saturated and he has won against Legends.

  mantis0014:

  Your Average is worked out on the last X games played (not sure how many) maybe 10 for example.  Each score low you shoot will basically kick out the highest score in that group of 10 games.   If you shoot a 29 your average will go down... The next game,  you shoot a 33 and if your average goes down it means the game has chucked out the 38 you shot yesterday (not saying you shot 38, just an example)

  I agree for the saturated average at hand. The average should move considerably now because there are a few scores of high 70s / 80s to eliminate.

  Alas, there has been no movement from scores of 32, 32, 66, 67, 36 since the saturation. This is either a new way of calculation or a new glitch.

• Woogmoog 45 Posts

  Sat, Feb 9 2013 2:51 AM

  I'm trying guys, you can check everyday my games and I think I startet to put better scores than in the last week definitely.

  What really bugs me is when I became a Tour Master my avg was 63 and then I got up to 78 I played some ranked games and I got down to 64.64. Actually it wasn't so hard, then I started again and the avg started going down like 64.64 to 64 then 63.72 and it was getting really hard to get down. All of sudden stopped as I exaplained. 4 days now.

  I'll keep trying to put a score like you said 30 and thx again for the replies.

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Sat, Feb 9 2013 3:29 AM

  Woogmoog:

  What really bugs me is when I became a Tour Master my avg was 63 and then I got up to 78 I played some ranked games and I got down to 64.64. Actually it wasn't so hard, then I started again and the avg started going down like 64.64 to 64 then 63.72 and it was getting really hard to get down. All of sudden stopped as I exaplained. 4 days now.

  I'll keep trying to put a score like you said 30 and thx again for the replies.

  I see your better scores Woog - very nice!

  The other thing is "natural": When so. tiers up, the average and the number of rounds are reset and start from scratch. That is, when you played a 78, it would become the first TM average. After that, the first rounds have a bigger influence on the average due to the small divisor (2, 3, ...). The average floats up and down until the minimum no. of rounds for that tier has been played ("saturation") = 50 for TMs. After you arrived there (with that 70 if I'm correct) the number will stay fixed until you tier up. Thus only better rounds should move the average by kicking lesser good ones out, like Mantis and I said. This doesn't work in your case, and my interpretation is that the recent update has changed the calculus.

  And yes, a 61 or 30/60 will show us more.

• Woogmoog 45 Posts

  Sat, Feb 9 2013 5:45 AM

  I'm almost there Alosso lol.

  2 games on Bethpage Black scoring 31. Dam it's hard to get 30 lol. 

• Allen63 364 Posts

  Sat, Feb 9 2013 10:30 AM

  Don't forget too, only "ranked" or "scored" rounds count. Setting anything up in practice mode will NOT help you

   

• Woogmoog 45 Posts

  Wed, Feb 13 2013 3:16 PM

  Ok guys I got one stroke game 29 and my avg got down a little tiny bit from 62 it went to 61.92 only.

  I think I'll have a long way from here until get to Legend LOL.

• solanna 736 Posts

  Wed, Feb 13 2013 3:31 PM

  don't be in such a rush to get to legend. Those tees are a long way back, and its like starting a whole new game, you have to relearn each hole again from a different perspective. have fun , legend will come quick enough.

• Glossopade 518 Posts

  Wed, Feb 13 2013 3:33 PM

  Woogmoog:

  Ok guys I got one stroke game 29 and my avg got down a little tiny bit from 62 it went to 61.92 only.

  I think I'll have a long way from here until get to Legend LOL.

  I admire your ambition and enthusiasm  about reaching Legend and hope you enjoy it more than I have, once you get there. Personally, I've been a virtual recluse since moving up on Jan 1st.

• Romax 1,876 Posts

  Wed, Feb 13 2013 3:43 PM

  Hey Woog,,,,,,, I "rolled over" on a few games to help friends level up. (twice this week so far) I will do the same for you if you wanna try and maybe avg. will drop. Dunno ???