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90 second clocks - Why?

Sat, Aug 3 2013 8:22 PM (55 replies)
  • zzturk
    150 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 6:42 AM

    I do not condone the ninety second clock - but in some situations, it is warranted!

    By switching to putting mode when you have an approach shot, it lets you read the break lines on the greens.

    Then there are calculations to reduce your lengthy putts, such as on St. A 5th (par 5) green.

    If you are already a legend, then you pretty much know how tourney greens will work. But many players in stroke play, who are master (or lower), get into a game with a legend and are unprepared for the tourney greens.

    Even with friendly players who will teach them the percentages, and there are many exceptions to the percentages, it really takes all the time they can spare to allow for distance adj, break adjustment, removing flag, switching to reverse view, then RE-adjusting .... and ninety seconds doesn't seem to be enough.

    NOW - the reason I don't condone ninety seconds is because at WGT, it allows players to become automotons, unlike real golf.

    Learn on the fly, as in real life, and the game becomes slightly more realistic - as in playing by the seat of one's pants.

    Thirty seconds is ridiculously too fast, but 45 and 60 are quite playable. If they did away with 30 and 90, and maybe throw in a 75 bone, all would be right by me.

    Any game I initiate (unless I'm afraid of losing masters), I specify 60 option. 

  • mathia14
    1,271 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 6:59 AM

    Golf isn't a game of speed.  NASCAR is.  IMHO there shouldn't be a clock at all.

  • hatcojack
    410 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 8:26 AM

    45,60,75 would be ideal!

  • Choppography
    2,166 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 8:37 AM

    90 second clocks in a/s games allow more chatting with friends.

    If OP contends we should eliminate 90 sec timers, I contend we should eliminate 30 sec timers.  Too many situations come up for 30 sec to be more than grip and rip and no chatting.  To me, those are gamers...........not golfers.

    And, I don't play slow.  I stop and think a little when I need to, but grip and rip when I don't.  Those that take 60 sec or more to hit a driver drive me insane.

  • LOLserver
    3,522 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 11:50 AM

    MichaelStroke:

    60 seconds is more than generous.  If you can't make a shot in a minute, perhaps online golf isn't your forté.

    Sorry to point this out but, because you playing so fast, you do not setup your second shots & putts properly, see your Green in Regulation and putting stats.... very poor.

    When I was a TM I though the same, no need for 90 secs, after taking my time for the second shots & putts, my GR stats are getting much better and my results too.

    No good player can setup a difficult putt on Merion's greens with less the 60 secs, unless it wants to miss it on purpose.

    Eric

    EDIT, forgot to mention, I love Uneven Lies, for those shots you need more then 90 secs and I hope WGT, when finished the UL, allow us to choose more then 90 seconds for those tournaments.

  • navigater
    1,319 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 12:02 PM

    Plan your shots before its your turn.Is the way I play

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 12:09 PM

    In my opinion all should take a look at the stats of the players who are saying they sometimes need more than 60 seconds, versus the stats of those who think 60 seconds in plenty of time.

     

  • tiger319
    1,186 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 6:48 PM

    MichaelStroke:

    WGT, can you do people a favor and eliminate the 90 second option for shot clocks?  It's unnecessary.  I just had to drop yet another match intentionally with someone who would milk EVERY possible second from a clock when making a shot - even on 5 foot putts.  I left on the 5th hole and it was already pushing an hour in duration.

    60 seconds is more than generous.  If you can't make a shot in a minute, perhaps online golf isn't your forté.

    90 seconds is 1.5 minutes.  You say you left after the 5th hole. Going to give you the benefit here.  You said 60 secs is more than generous.  5 holes x 45 secs is 3.75 minutes.  5 holes x 90 secs is 7.5 minutes. 3.75X7.5=11.25 minutes.  Granted the game has any where from 1 to 10 seconds or longer to load the next hole, that is not even close to quote, "pushing an hour in duration"???  You probably need to learn some patience..  Your time is not more valuable than anyone else's here.  If you don't like it then you need to not play Match Play!

     

  • BubbaCrusher007
    1,567 Posts
    Sat, Aug 3 2013 7:07 PM

    The PGA should put Keegan Bradley on a 90 second shot clock.

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