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Hardest course and hardest hole

Tue, Feb 24 2015 3:17 PM (34 replies)
  • PeterHopper
    1,315 Posts
    Mon, Jul 29 2013 4:18 PM

    Two threads in one really.

    Now that we have had Merion and Olympic awhile, what course do people think is the hardest on WGT. Still Oakmont?

    Within the courses which holes (with pin placement) do people really despise. i.e. you are going along nicely in a round and then you come to said hole and your heart sinks.

     

     

     

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Mon, Jul 29 2013 4:45 PM

    can't really comment on hardest course as a hole, but i can say i i truly hate #5 on Merion. If i could bulldoze some earth and fill the front left of that green in a would

  • PeterHopper
    1,315 Posts
    Mon, Jul 29 2013 4:52 PM

    Just played it. I see what you mean.

    The hole that  prompted me to post this thread is number 15 at Merion. The pin is a postage stamp.

     

  • Boomerboy44
    1,514 Posts
    Mon, Jul 29 2013 6:30 PM

    #5...#6 at Merion are really hard to birdie. As far as the toughest  course ...?? 

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Mon, Jul 29 2013 7:18 PM

    #9 Oakmont front right pin...I hit it in the trap and hope I dont go past the hole.

    Merion by a mile...

  • BigInigoMontoya
    208 Posts
    Mon, Jul 29 2013 8:34 PM

    Toughest course, I'd probably vote for either Olympic or Bethpage.  Not only are they both long, very long, but Bethpage has drastic elevation changes on nearly every hole, IMHO.  And it been a while since I've played a full 18 at Olympic so I can't remember if it has those nasty ups and downs too, but I'm guessing it probably does.  Also, at Bethpage it seems like nearly every hole is a dog leg, so even if you hit the fairway off the tee, there is no guarantee you will actually stay in the fairway.

    And as for the hardest hole, I have to go with the Par 3 13th at Olympic, for a myriad of reasons.  The pin placement is so tricky that you have almost no green to work with.  And if you come up short, you're on the beach facing a tough up and down.  Not only that, but any tee shot that misses long will have an EXTREMELY nasty break to deal with.  Its almost a guaranteed 3 putt -- at least it is for me anyways.  I've parred that hole maybe 3 times in my entire life LOL.  I'm sure it doesn't help much that a) I've only been on tour for 1 month, b) my starter putter sucks, c) my starter WGT unlimiteds suck, and d) I absolutely suck at putting overall, but right now I think this is the toughest hole for me.

    And a close runner up is number 17 at Royal Saint Andrews.  The length isn't really that bad since I have a legit driver and 3 wood, but the fairway is so darn narrow that I almost always end up in the thick rough.  From there, its basically a hit 'n hope punch 3 iron on a wing and a prayer that it finds the second level of the green, or at least gives you a good lie to pitch and putt for an up and down.  Even if you do find the fairway, the green is so narrow that attacking the pin is highly risky, especially with the large bunker if you leave it short.  If you are unlucky enough to land on that first level of the green, its basically a 1 stroke penalty IMHO.  I've had countless rounds that have singlehandedly gone from pretty good, not bad to son of a #$%^& all because of that one hole.  

  • PBaldwin
    108 Posts
    Tue, Jul 30 2013 12:28 PM

    For the hardest course I'd say it's pretty close between Merion and Oakmont.

    The hardest hole for me is Oakmont #9 right pin.  I feel it's probably a lot to do with my clubs as it almost 100% depends on the wind to get the right approach.  If I get the wrong wind I can land right on the front edge of the green and roll 10 yards past the hole with a nearly impossible 2 putt.  The only way I can seem to stop it there is if I have the perfect landing spot to where I can play a full swing shot with full backspin.  If I back it down at all it seems to take all the spin off and just has no chance to stop.  If I get a headwind I need a 3 wood to make it and then I there's absolutely no chance to go for it and just gotta lay up and go for the par save.

  • chris5214
    1,937 Posts
    Tue, Jul 30 2013 1:14 PM

    jsweetcr:

    can't really comment on hardest course as a hole, but i can say i i truly hate #5 on Merion. If i could bulldoze some earth and fill the front left of that green in a would

    yup .. gotta touch down to right of the pin there .. actually better to roll off green than to be long, right js ? lol

    i'd say Merion right now is the hardest with Oly a close 2nd ..

    hardest hole Oak#9 right pin behind bunker wins hands down .. i was lucky tnite to save par after being 3yds away from the pin after approach, but to the left; exactly where you don't wanna be

  • egonweber
    365 Posts
    Tue, Jul 30 2013 1:26 PM

    Hardest course i vote merion. Hardest hole merion and oly. Merion #5 #6 and #18 oly#1 #10, well all from black tee oly/oak are very similar in difficulty, if you know how to tee and shot not hitting trees some on oly are easier than oak. But merion is overall the hardest course we have now IMHO.

    Egon

  • egonweber
    365 Posts
    Tue, Jul 30 2013 1:28 PM

    chris5214:
    hardest hole Oak#9 right pin behind bunker wins hands down .. i was lucky tnite to save par after being 3yds away from the pin after approach, but to the left; exactly where you don't wanna be

    I have eagled that *** once, overhit and roll back in hole..

    Egon

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