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WGT's new method of determinng scoring avg...

• MTBR 182 Posts

  Fri, Nov 13 2015 10:54 PM

  thetazz101:

  what is happening to the avgs?   shoot a -6 and it goes down .01 shoot a -3 and doesn't move.   yes i am playing ranked rounds, and yes i have saturated my rounds.

  did wgt screw with the avgs?   and want to stop players to move up?

  GL on getting that score down and IF you can make any sense out of what the geeks have to say, have at it.

• MTBR 182 Posts

  Fri, Nov 13 2015 10:59 PM

  alosso:

  hakman123:

  If you have for example 31,502 strokes for your 500 RRs     then 31,500 / 500 = 63.004

  +1 - rest snipped in consent.

  Those who don't bother to understand the calculation may be better off with this thought:

  TLs have to collect 30,000 strokes in 500 games to qualify for C - if they have more, like the 31,502 above, they have to add better scores.

  It's of no relevance which interim average a player has. Wait, it is, only for bragging rights.

  Those who don't bother to understand the calculation. I couldn't even fill in the variables because i have no idea how many total strokes or ranked rounds i have at my particular tier. So, I did BOTHER to understand.

• MTBR 182 Posts

  Fri, Nov 13 2015 11:11 PM

  As many glitches as this software has, and you actually think the calculations for scoring averages are correct?

  That's laughable !

• hakman123 2,119 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 1:52 AM

  MTBR:

  As many glitches as this software has, and you actually think the calculations for scoring averages are correct?

  That's laughable !

  I have the scores of every round I have ever played in a spreadsheet.

  Yes - the averages are EXACTLY correct. My calculation has matched the WGT average shown, every single round played.

  The fact that you can't come to terms with numbers is laughable.

• hakman123 2,119 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 1:58 AM

  I don't expect others to keep all that information.  But when others say that the WGT calculations are not correct, or there is some sort of conspiracy - I can show them that it is simply not true.

  And how complicated can the sums be.   Add up all the scores and divide by 500 ???

  Surely you can understand that!!??!!

  At an average of 60 --- that is 30,000 strokes.    So improving your worst score by 10 strokes will improve your average by only 0.02      (10 / 500)

  If you do not understand that much --- then don't bother sharing your opinions. They are not worth much in a question about maths.

  And go for it --- knock those who actually DO understand it.

  Many people playing WGT actually get it, and appreciate the details.  You clearly do not.  So you will NEVER get it.

• hakman123 2,119 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 2:02 AM

  MTBR:

  How would one go about finding how many Ranked Rounds at a particular tier they have?...

  When you tier up -- look at your stats and note down the number of Ranked Rounds played.

  Then any time later simply look at the stats again and work out how many at your current tier by subtracting.

  Always have to allow a few rounds for BOP3s and BOP5s which don't count for averages.

• alosso 21,083 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 6:02 AM

  Add Bandon to those ranked rounds not counting...

  hakman123:

  So improving your worst score by 10 strokes will improve your average by only 0.02      (10 / 30,000)

  Ehm - a typo: 10/500

• alosso 21,083 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 6:04 AM

  MTBR:

  You said oh it's a simple calculation. Who the hell keeps count of all that ,besides WGT, to do all that math? I would guess YOU for some reason. Gotta love a Logistics expert coming in here with all that calculating and expecting anyone to get any valuable information that they could actually use. 

  Please excuse me, from this text I interpreted "no bother" - obviously by mistake.

  Yes it's simple, but you must not miss the start of it - first score in a new tier. And, you'll have to keep at least 501 scores in view and select accordingly.

  To understand it, read hakman's long post, perhaps add my "second view", and ask further if you like. Alas, nobody understands maths without maths ;)

• 703 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 6:20 AM

  MTBR:

  "The Bottom Line" is WGT should reward any player that shoots a -6 on 9 holes with more than a .01 at a 63 average score. All that math is valuable only to someone that can comprehend it. Try Layman's terms next time. WGT is notorious for not rewarding good scores and gives you basically a half sleeve of balls for making TL. Fine reward indeed!

  WGT do employ layman calculations for Legend tier averages. The logarithmic additions only apply for tourney wins at lower tiers.

• MTBR 182 Posts

  Sat, Nov 14 2015 7:32 AM

  hakman123:

  MTBR:

  As many glitches as this software has, and you actually think the calculations for scoring averages are correct?

  That's laughable !

  I have the scores of every round I have ever played in a spreadsheet.

  Yes - the averages are EXACTLY correct. My calculation has matched the WGT average shown, every single round played.

  The fact that you can't come to terms with numbers is laughable.

  Yours may be correct but that doesn't mean all others are correct. I could come to terms with your calculations had I kept a spreadsheet, but I'm thinking you have calculated it all out and want to convey this message to others who have NOT kept record of their stats. So that effort is futile.