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Wk50 Free Cabo 18 Single Play Uneven Lies

Tue, Dec 17 2013 9:27 AM (45 replies)
  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Sun, Dec 15 2013 4:47 PM

    alcaucin:

    Was -4 after 5 but then found a RED square and after hitting the ball once which went 2 inches, a second time I hit it harder and it went back over my head into the bunker........I decided to stick by my Status Statement.

    Andy

    You know I would gladly play a practice round in UL with you if you want to know any of the tricks I've picked  up while playing UL. The Red Box lie and how to get out of it is one I took a lot of shots to figure out.  All you gotta do is ask.

    BTW, -4 through the first 5 holes was a heck of a lot better than I managed to start. If your average is saturated, why quit? Even if it's not it's only 1 round of many.

     

     

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 1:35 AM

    CerinoDevoti:
    BTW, -4 through the first 5 holes was a heck of a lot better than I managed to start. If your average is saturated, why quit? Even if it's not it's only 1 round of many.

    Sheer pigheadedness.....;-))

    I didn't put 1000's of Hours and 1000's of $$ into this site to Hack around.

    If UL's had been around when I started I would've learnt both games in tandem but it's so hard to go back

    CerinoDevoti:
    You know I would gladly play a practice round in UL with you if you want to know any of the tricks I've picked  up while playing UL. The Red Box lie and how to get out of it is one I took a lot of shots to figure out.  All you gotta do is ask.

    Cool, Thanks for the offer, I'll do just that, as the -4 was pure luck / great putting...will hit you up when feeling veeery patient lol

    If the arrows were on the f/way were going slightly right I just aimed waaay left and smacked it an extra 10 yrds!! ( seemed to work until...)

    Andy

  • andypat
    453 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 3:09 AM

    Well just tried this and they can stick it never seen so much BS 3rd hole 130 to the pin up 13ft hit 145ns and ball carried 110 yds ??????????????????????????????

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 6:21 AM

    Im curious, so i made a 9 minute video of how UL plays for me. The question is, does the UL play like this for everyone else, as i find this absolutely ridiculous? Now, i know how its supposed to play, but are the adjustments i make as strong as, or severe as the adjustments made by you? If they are, then i can only say that WGT are still way out of whack on how it should be.

    BTW, my approach shot on the 2nd hole was a meter freeze, even if it doesnt look like it on the video. Please let me know what you think folks. Cheers.

  • mnshiner
    1,382 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 6:50 AM

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  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 9:56 AM

    TWOMINUSONE:

    Im curious, so i made a 9 minute video of how UL plays for me. The question is, does the UL play like this for everyone else, as i find this absolutely ridiculous? Now, i know how its supposed to play, but are the adjustments i make as strong as, or severe as the adjustments made by you? If they are, then i can only say that WGT are still way out of whack on how it should be.

    BTW, my approach shot on the 2nd hole was a meter freeze, even if it doesnt look like it on the video. Please let me know what you think folks. Cheers.

    First off, thanks so much for recording this piece. I watched the whole thing and really looked at your shot aiming. On each approach you didn't play nearly enough angle offset from a target. First thing is I relocate my aiming point to the safest place on the green in relation to the hole and any trouble I want to avoid at all costs.  That means not necessarily the hole and is usually on the incoming side of a UL shot. The high side of the lie if you will. It looked like you were trying dead aim on every shot. I don't do that. 

    To answer more directly, I move the aimer much more severely and play conservatively as far as a circle of acceptable result around the pin. Like up to 20 or 30 feet depending on the lie of the approach shot.

    I think you played fine and could practice your way to playing the UL with results you'd be fine with. They're just not always near our averages. I've played tons of practice rounds in UL and I think it really takes lotsof practice to just play the thing and not think about it.

    ~CD~

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 2:31 PM

    Thanks CD, that answers my question. I will say that i wasnt playing this to try and do well, but only to record how it plays on my end. I just went in and played those few holes, and then withdrew, as i planned to do.

    It would defo take some time to practice it, but i havent taken to it because i was expecting more realism from the shots i guess. Cheers.

    Jimmy.

  • WigerToods2010
    8,448 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 3:25 PM

    S.O.S........

    HELP!!!!

    Corwyn/Ceroni  advice required!!!!!!!!!

     

    Hit this tee shot @ Whistler #6 - all me, I hit late ;(

    Anyhoos.... this is how we stand at the mo........................

    (Click image for full sized version)

    What to do?????

    I'm a stubborn bugger and would prefer to finish the round.

    Don't care about the score but would like to make it to the 19th hole with my balls intact.

    I await some sound advice chaps!

    LMAO

    *I aint hitting nowt till y'all reply  :O)

  • Corwyn
    2,410 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 3:42 PM

    Yikes Johnny!!! What a horrible spot.

    Firstly, I should state I've rarely played Whistler at all, and never in unevens, so this is new territory for me.

    This definitely looks like a situation where you have to cut your losses. Don't aim for the green or you'll likely get in even more trouble. You've got a severe sidehill lie which could mean needing to aim right of the bushy tree in front of you. Too dangerous in my opinion.

    What happens if you turn back and face the fairway? Can you find a lie where at least you take out the left-right dots, and have something that's straight, even though it will certainly be a big downhiller. If you can, then I might try some full power wedge (probably with a lot of backspin to get it up from the downhill slope) and hope to land on the flattest part of the fairway that's available. 

    I fear though, that whichever way you face, it's going to be luck whether or not you can blast through the undergrowth. 

    I don't envy you mate... Hope you can get out of there!

    BTW: looking at the scores posted so far, my guess is that a lot of players have found some serious trouble, and that anyone finding fairways and greens has a very good chance. Trouble on this course in unevens looks real nasty!

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    Jimmy: Thanks for sharing your video. I concur with Cerino's comments that the aim could have been a lot further in most cases. Some of these slopes at Whistler look severe, to say the least. 

    One strategy I've made standard practice is to deliberately miss the ding against the slope, so with a hook lie I'll adjust the aim well to the right, but I'll also try and miss the ding a little to the right as well. I've found this helps mitigate the extremities of a slope. It's the same principle that many players use playing into a strong sidewind. In doing so, I'll also add a few yards to my shot, expecting some distance loss by missing the ding. 

    So, I do this on strong sidehill lies, and always when there's a wind that's also taking the ball in the same direction as the slope.

    Another thing to watch for is the extra effect of a sloping lie when using your most lofted clubs. It makes sense that the increased angle/loft will help exaggerate the effect, but it's hard to make enough allowance for it. Cerino's advice about seeking the safest parts of the green makes a lot of sense, as does the strategy of waiting for your best opportunities to attack the pin. If you don't have a flat enough lie, best to be safe rather than sorry.

    I commend you both for giving this a shot, and for sharing these videos/screenshots. It's all a learning process, and quite the adventure: only the brave are even trying it, so kudos to all that do!

    Cheers, Corwyn

  • WigerToods2010
    8,448 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 3:54 PM

    Wow! ..cheers for the quick reply, Corwyn.

    I really did save the game at that point - found something to keep me occupied whilst I waited......

     

    .... back to the golf.....

    I fancied just going for the green at first but  I'd be aiming at .... my kitchen!

    Sideways looked possible best option, then I read your reply.

    Loading game client as I type.... I shall let thee know how one fares.

    Gotta make that 19th - apparently the drinks are on you :)

    LOL

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