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Same Players Winning Club Tournaments ~ Is it a Problem in Your Club?

• cappiest 1,346 Posts

  Tue, Jan 7 2014 11:32 AM

  handicaps is best option....only real fair way to do it

   

• renniw52 5,385 Posts

  Tue, Jan 7 2014 11:42 AM

  I have been a member of 3 different clubs. Eventually it seems that the same 2 or 3 players win all the tournaments. I used to give sleeves to the top 3 players in the tourneys I sponsored. Got tired of gifting to the same people all the time. Not a member of a CC at this time for this reason. Rules were for Legend, TM and below, most CC members would not play because they knew the outcome. Sad part was the only rounds the same old same old played was when they knew they would win a gift. I used to start a game and send an invite and they wouldn't accept. SAD.

• Dubfore 4,350 Posts

  Tue, Jan 7 2014 1:41 PM

  Hello Renni,

  sad indeed that WGT has these sad sorts and unlucky for you that you found them in your club.  Lesson learned.  

  You seem like the kind of person our club would be glad to have. Club credit  tournaments and recruitment are suspended atm in the Players Only, but you are more than welcome to give our club a tryout when we get this handicap system up and working.  

  Thanks for the feedback.

  Cheers.

• Dubfore 4,350 Posts

  Tue, Jan 7 2014 1:52 PM

  and while I'm here, will someone tell me how to copy and paste comments in a box like some on this post.

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Jan 7 2014 3:01 PM

  Dubfore:

  and while I'm here, will someone tell me how to copy and paste comments in a box like some on this post.

  After you hit Reply, anything you highlight will show up in your answer when you click the Quote button. If you click Quote without highlighting anything, the whole post gets copied.  

• Dubfore 4,350 Posts

  Tue, Jan 7 2014 3:18 PM

  TYVMYJ

• Dubfore 4,350 Posts

  Wed, Jan 8 2014 4:42 PM

  Thanks again everyone for the advice.  <Plain english, it took less than ten seconds.  ;-/

• Soggyblogger 224 Posts

  Fri, Jan 10 2014 4:33 PM

  After reading most of these posts, I came up with the idea of EXCLUDING winners from some or many of the CC Tournaments. Just like Horse Racing does. They are called Maiden Races. Until someone wins a tournament they are always eligible for the Maiden Tournaments. Other tournaments would be open to all, and others perhaps only for previous winners. How long back the system would go would be arbitrary, and might need tweaking. Maiden's for non-winners in the last year. Maiden's for non-winners in the last month and so on. Just an idea. P.S. I have been posting now for 9 months and never had a post censored, but I am still on "probation" or whatever WGT calls it. Hey moderator, what's with that?

• EdJaws 402 Posts

  Thu, Jan 16 2014 8:21 AM

  Thanks Dubfore for starting this topic and Cobalt for sharing his procedure of using a handicap system. I will be stating handicap tourneys in the CC I belong to as soon as I get enough handicap rounds to work with.

  Dubfore:

  A couple of the formulas I've seen seem a bit complicated. I had something simpler in mind, like what one of our members suggested. Grade players A, B and C etc based on their handicaps, and they can only enter the A, B, or C tournaments they are graded to.

  In credit tournaments, the playing field would be more or less level and who gets the winnings shouldn't be an issue.

  By the way, I should have made it clear in my initial post that it's in credit tournaments where the problem is.

  I know why you want to use handicaps to grade players but I've found it's nearly impossible to get some players to stay out of any tournament they can enter before WGT gave CCs tier specific tourneys. I think you might run into the same problem trying to grade players and keep them out of graded tier credit tournaments. That is, unless you are ready to toss players out of your CC if they don't comply.
  
  Thumbs up to Soggyblogger too on his idea of maiden tournaments, neat idea. BTW, if you contact WGTIcon he'll help you get off post moderation.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Thu, Jan 16 2014 8:52 AM

  EdJaws:

  Thumbs up to Soggyblogger too on his idea of maiden tournaments, neat idea.

  +1 to that. Great idea.

  On the moderation, post on WGTIcon's wall, he checks it regularly.  :-)