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• pejon60 250 Posts

  Sat, May 3 2014 6:42 AM

  Just think how much money WGT will make from balls when EVERYONE has to play an extra shot on that PAR 4 hole if they don't get up and down from 50 yards!!!!!.....

  Or maybe I'm just being a cynical SOB

  Even if you take into consideration a holes "Effective Playing Length

  565 yrds for a par 4 is a FARCE

  The landing area is supposed to be over 30ft down but I had a drive there into a 9 MPH hit with a R11s and dinged playing the RZN level 81 distance ball and it only went 282 yrds.

  We all know that that is patently BS!

  The USGA will be EXTREMELY unlikely to play the hole at 565 yrds..average driving length on the USPGA Tour is 287.6 yrds .........That would mean that to a centre green pin position the average 2nd shot would be around 278 yrds.........

  They may "bomb it" but that is ABSURD!!!!

• loveclose 269 Posts

  Sat, May 3 2014 6:51 AM

  Have to agree....

  Whether the powers that be got the yardage wrong with regard to how the USPGA will play it for the championship, 565yds is NEVER a par 4 in anyone's book.  The next par 5 is only around 20 yds further....

  Frustrating, as the course pretty much everywhere else is a real challenge - but a fair challenge.

• vadernader 62 Posts

  Sat, May 3 2014 4:08 PM

  You guys do realize that par does not matter, at all, right? It's just there to help you measure how your round is going. If you hate the 565yd par 4 so much just pretend to yourself it is a par 71 course and that the 4th hole is a par 5. 

  
  Everyone plays the same course, it's overall strokes that matter. 

• BigInigoMontoya 208 Posts

  Sun, May 4 2014 6:52 PM

  Pinehurst, a challenging but for the most part fun course, save for that damn green at the 12th.  I've played the qualifier a handful of times, but so far my best has been 'only' a 66.  Could have been better, but I missed a couple 8 foot birds, and a poor wedge shot on, 16 I think it was, one of the unreachable par 4s, left me with a bogey. My highlights:

  A 360° Bird at 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsFmB1k-BJc

  Par save at 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQJnDYvQ1QQ

  curling Bird at 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggwpPCQE6k0

  the approach at 18: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI6fqfRiaJc (Sorry for tthe terrible camera angle on this one, I forgot to switch back to auto LOL)

  Even though it sucks to know that I'll never make the cut, I was still over the moon thrilled to get my platinum Pinehurst Pulverizer award - and from Legend tees with champ greens no less, haha. 

   

• Poowanai275 139 Posts

  Tue, May 6 2014 7:49 PM

  JayO92:

  Hole #4 is a 565 yard par 4?  What the f*** WGT!  They're surely not going to actually play from the old par 5 tee's in this years US Open!  That hole simply isn't reachable without a generous tailwind!

  you can bounce a ball  on the  2nd shot . need  luck.

  Mix

• sue333318 631 Posts

  Tue, May 6 2014 11:38 PM

  I don't know what all the fuss is about - so we have a 565 par 4 - if the wind is against the 17th at St Andrews (back pin) is also an unreachable in 2 and has a much harder fairway to hit off the tee.

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Wed, May 7 2014 4:31 AM

  i have to say this again...sorry...lol

  That 4th hole is great. It's reachable in 2 shots in cross/tailwind and a make or break hole, which adds to the excitement or misery

  It would be a pretty easy Par5 if it was one.

  -Roger

• andwhy67 2,816 Posts

  Wed, May 7 2014 4:49 AM

  +1 Sue

  Nobody complains about the 17th!

  sue333318:

  I don't know what all the fuss is about - so we have a 565 par 4 - if the wind is against the 17th at St Andrews (back pin) is also an unreachable in 2 and has a much harder fairway to hit off the tee.

   

• mara43 1,674 Posts

  Wed, May 7 2014 5:35 AM

  As per the Pinehurst website http://www.pinehurst.com/golf/courses/no-2/

  

  :-)

• TarheelsRule 5,560 Posts

  Wed, May 7 2014 9:27 AM

  I don't believe that the 17th at St Andrews is near as tough as the 4th at Pinehurst.

  The fairways at STA is a little narrow but not that difficult to hit.  At 510 or so, a good 300 yard drive gives you 210 so a four iron.  Even into a wind I can almost always reach it.

  The 4th at Pinehurst is reachable with a 3 wood with a trailing wind or a side wind if you hit a perfect shot.  Wind into you and you are looking at a shot in of 50 yards at some times.  

  Neither are what I consider birdie holes but I would say that my scoring average on 17 is going to be at least .25 less than 4 at Pinehurst.

  The 4th hole played as a par 5 during the last 2 US Opens.  I tend to agree that the hole probably won't be played at more than 540 for this Open, either way it is an easy par 5 or a very difficult par 4.  The solution for golf is to control the clubs and balls.  Pinehurst is over 100 years old and one of the few old courses that can stand up to the power of today.  It is a shame that many of the great old courses are being made into pitch and putt courses by the equipment.  It isn't the players, take a look at a driver from 1976 versus today and notice that you can hit the ball an inch off center today and still get 95% of your distance.  Hit a wood in 1976 an inch off center and you would be lucky to hit it 100 yards.