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Mon, Jun 20 2011 4:04 PM (550 replies)
  • TarheelsRule
    5,566 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:16 AM

    INteresting thought.

    I was a member of Party Poker and later Full Tilt.  PP chose to not allow US gambling by it's members while FT kept doint this.  The action of the FBI the other day effectively shut down FT and the other two to US online gamblers.  Today they did declare that the money in these players accounts would be refunded to them, the FBI had every right to confiscate those funds and all players were lucky they didn't do this.  Effectively what these sites were doing was laundering money offshore before returning it to the players accounts.

    I have said for a while that WGT allowing Ready Go's and MPC is effectively a gambling site.  If I were in charge of WGT I would immediately discontinue these games which generate a lot of revenue, 10% juice on both sides (even Vegas would blush at charging 10% on both sides and keeping it).  WGT is a small fish, the poker sites were whales but if the small fish gets big, you can bet that the FBI will come calling.

    The solution is a monthly fee, just a couple of bucks or $39.95 a year, eliminate the green fees, eliminate the 'gambling' and go on with life.

  • StaticPappy
    46 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:17 AM

    Well I agreed to no refunds when I bought credits or I would just want a refund. I have only been playing for about a month now but have already invested about 50$ in game. So since I cant get my money back I have to do the next best thing..

    NEVER SPEND ANOTHER CREDIT!!! on anything!

    It seems that they have advertising and sponsor money to start with.. this is how they made the game to start with. Add next the money paid by users of game. Now we know two things.. Ads an sponsors pay millions. Second if they're are millions of WGT players then at least a million of those have spent a 100$ equaling another 100 million plus in funds for game.

    So how is it that they have to add pay per play charges to the new courses. Bottom line folks is that you OWN WGT!! Without us they have no one to screw for a profit.

    If WGT does not provide new course and equipment we will get bored and leave.. this is the fact of running a game.

    If WGT start asking for money at every turn I will get mad and leave and would hope all you would be smart enough to do the same.

    Bottom line is I will pay for balls an sticks and thats it!! And if you pay to play that tacky new course... THEN YOU ARE HELPING TO DESTROY THE GAME YOU LOVE.

    Further more I really wish the stupid would forget how to type. Why even bother to complain if your only going to end your complaint with these words.. "i don't mind paying a lil more but.."

    I mean if you dont mind paying a lil more then shut up and go pay to play an be happy. Have your ever looked at a utility bill an said i would pay a lil more?? NO!! of course not so put away the keyboard or put on your thinking caps.. Please! 

    If you say I dont like this but i'm willing to pay you just sound dumb.

    Now lets address this to..

    Mosales:
    In either case, players who contribute 20 cent/credits get to play the new course for free, those who don't have to pay 5 credits/cents every time they want to play it.

    Basically you are saying WGT should start charging a members fee to every player as a way to pay for new things. Please put down the pipe! 

    I dont like alot of the riffraff that the game being totally free to play attracts. They are rude, quit games and an assortment of other annoying things.

    So if WGT really has millions of users you can bet most of them spend very lil if anything to support the game. This in an of itself is the biggest drain on WGT but its also the way they get new players to play.. an hopfully buy some stuff.

    That said if we are going to pay member fees to get the things we want like new courses Then make it all different.

    Charge 5.00 per month membership fee. The WGT challenge can be used to attract new member as they can play first but need to be a member to save records an such or get better stuff. That covers attracting new members but are the members happy?

    Probly not as they are now double charged. So as to be fair all equip is free once your lvl in game unlocks it. Of course you gamblers will have to pay extra for that service.If everything in game is free once you unlock it I would be a member at a small monthly rate.

    But frankly I dont see that happening or anything else that might be fair to us the end user. WGT is a business and as such can only be concerned with profit. Profit by any means is the name of the game and as such I will use the only tool I have. THE LOCK ON MY WALLET!

    Also for those that think they are rich and that I am only crying cause I'm poor an want everything for free. I have money and am willing to spend it on what i feel is a value. This is an obvious rip off and only the stupid will fall for it. I am retired at 35 so money is not an issue. As someone with lots of both time and money I have already bought clubs as I outgrew the starters when I made pro. I didnt do that by playing once a week... I play about 20 rounds a day!

    At 20 rounds a day at 100c per course I'd be spending 20$ a day PLUS equip. an tourny fees. I dont know of a game or much else I would pay 20$ daily rental on. So the fact remain that paid courses will kill the game for me an I suspect many others.

    I know that WGT is greedy. I also know it takes MONEY to provide the game. So with that in mind I dont just offer a *** I come with solution also.

    Dont just make the NEW trucrap courses paid- make them all fee paid courses for game modes other than CTTH. Thats right  ALL! So why am I saying that I wont pay for the new course but then saying that all courses should have a fee? Well thats really simple and this is why.

    WGT says it needs extra money to pay for new course development and that does cost money. We say that we want new courses. So the only way to make it fair is something like this.

    First off I wont pay a green fee so lets call it an UNLOCK fee. As in all courses an CTTH- blitz mode will require a small ONE TIME unlock charge. After you paid the course is then unlocked forever for you. When ever there is a new course a new unlock fee is paid by all members wishing to play the course.

    And this is what I see as a FAIR rate. 9/18 courses cost 25cr each to unlock. CTTH/blitz courses are unlocked at 10cr cost each. This allows the player to add what courses an modes they want at the pace they choose. Each full course would cost 35cr to unlock both types of play options. That covers the old courses but what about the new ones?

    I say bring out new courses and those who want to be the first to play will have to pay NEW course fee of 50cr full course an 20cr for CTTH. At this rate a new course would generate about a million $$ for WGT. Million should pay for developing a new course easily.

    Every time WGT releases a new course "or a trucrap" the last new course fees will drop to same as other old course rates. At that point those watching thier pennies will be unlocking the course adding another half million to WGT pockets so they can continue providing this kool game to us.

    To end this I looked but didnt see any indication that the 100cr was a one time fee to unlock course forever. And since they want 150 for back 9 later i had to assume it was a INSANE per play charge. That is something I will NEVER pay!

    If it is set up the way I laid out above that would be fair and acceptable. Really hope WGT is listening but I have many doubts. 

    In any case I would never pay more that 50cr to unlock NEW course. And will never pay even 1cr to play any course once. That's just stupid and if stupid is what WGT wants I wont be round here long anyway.

    Peace clams 

     

  • HeadlessChicken
    20 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:18 AM

    PeterHopper:

    Hi, I am PeterHopper and I am a cute femal golfer looking for gifts. You can play a round with me if you buy me gifts.

    lol. Peter, this is not how it works.

  • oneputtdavid
    1,337 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:19 AM

    sixkiller:

    If the graphics on Cabo are so bad, please direct me to a better golf site! Oh and it has to be totally free and have a perfect meter!

    Nah Clay, just one where I don't have to go through a "ceremonial ritual" for a "consistant" meter every time I start the day to play.

    Pay to play is ok with me, but as some of the elders on this site has stated; WGT could do more with improving fixing some of bugs that exist with the current course's and/or in-game play scenarios.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:23 AM

    Letting it sink in and rethinking it, trying to understand why..........

    Since it's a given that that's the way it's going to be try looking at this move from the business end. For starters, WGT didn't take anything away from what is already here, i.e. the free HD courses. Pro Shop. All the RG's and weeklies/monthlies are still there. Nothing's really changed in that respect.

    What did change, or should I say got added, was a revenue stream that will attract new, different business. They are still moving ahead in the HD course department, they now just have an additional source of income that will probably attract another segment of the online golfing market and go in its own direction. Another piece of the pie for whoever's doing the finance planning. Growth.

    I suggested earlier that WGT was compromising a standard of excellence. Maybe they're not. Maybe they just found a way to get into EA's knickers.

  • oneputtdavid
    1,337 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:28 AM

    HeadlessChicken:

    PeterHopper:

    Hi, I am PeterHopper and I am a cute femal golfer looking for gifts. You can play a round with me if you buy me gifts.

    lol. Peter, this is not how it works.

    ROTFLMBO, you have to excuse Pete, First time panhandling. Hasn't perfected being discreet. Almost threw me off course with the femal golfer though...lol

  • nowhammies
    288 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:32 AM

    StaticPappy,  you are contradicting yourself!  First you advise others to do the following:

    StaticPappy:
    Bottom line is I will pay for balls an sticks and thats it!! And if you pay to play that tacky new course... THEN YOU ARE HELPING TO DESTROY THE GAME YOU LOVE.

    Then you go on and come up with this:

    StaticPappy:

    First off I wont pay a green fee so lets call it an UNLOCK fee. As in all courses an CTTH- blitz mode will require a small ONE TIME unlock charge. After you paid the course is then unlocked forever for you. When ever there is a new course a new unlock fee is paid by all members wishing to play the course.

    And this is what I see as a FAIR rate. 9/18 courses cost 25cr each to unlock. CTTH/blitz courses are unlocked at 10cr cost each. This allows the player to add what courses an modes they want at the pace they choose. Each full course would cost 35cr to unlock both types of play options. That covers the old courses but what about the new ones?

    I say bring out new courses and those who want to be the first to play will have to pay NEW course fee of 50cr full course an 20cr for CTTH. At this rate a new course would generate about a million $ for WGT. Million should pay for developing a new course easily.

    Maybe you should practice what you preach!  You want to keep it the way it is yet you come up with another way for WGT to charge more?  

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:34 AM

    nowhammies:
    Maybe you should practice what you preach!  You want to keep it the way it is yet you come up with another way for WGT to charge more?  

    Not to mention he's comparing free apples to oranges you can buy.  :-)

  • Cleworthy
    3,468 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:35 AM

    As a converted EA Sports TW player, I'll go plunk down my $50 one time for the new Masters version  and have 20 other courses to play for free as often as I want.  I've already spent twice that amount with WGT and now you want to start charging PER PLAY?  No, no, no, no, a thousand times no.

  • G0LD
    358 Posts
    Wed, Apr 20 2011 11:36 AM

    "I am interpreting the comments about "it looks fake and cartoon" to be more to do with it is a new setting that people are not really used to seeing."

    You are so blatantly mistaken that one is forced to wonder whether you can see or think straight, I am truly sorry to say. 

    The new course is grossly sub par, end of story. It is obviously not the "end of the world," to quote someone else, but it painfully feels like a betrayal that bodes ill.

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