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We Want Oakmont Back -- Petition

Thu, Aug 31 2017 4:14 PM (221 replies)
  • Robert1893
    7,722 Posts
    Wed, May 24 2017 9:48 AM

    wgatanker:
    the servers anymore for wgt are crap   i have a custom built rig(PC) for gaming  and the fastest connection i can get so i know for sure it is not my pc or connection but everytime i play any more i fight a giant lagg monster is is reeking havoc on my game and average score

    While I don't play on the PC, from the threads I've read over the last couple of years, the consensus seems to be that meter lag (if that's what you're referring to) is a flash problem and not a server problem. You might want to consider searching the boards on that issue. You could also check out ScottHope's home page.

     

    wgatanker:
    and charging more that real life prices for items in game  
     
    Do you have examples to what you're referring to? If you're referring to what they charge tor balls, then you should acknowledge that what they charge for clubs is just a bit under market price. ;-) 

    In other words, do you know anywhere that one can purchase a set of Ping irons for less than $30. It cuts both ways. And not to at least acknowledge that point is intellectually dishonest (IMO). 


    wgatanker:
    my post is pending on their approval 

    Until a person hits about 35 to 40 posts, everyone is moderated. If you think it's time that you should be taken off moderation, then just post a note to one one of the moderators' walls and ask to be taken off moderation.   

  • overtheedge
    5,885 Posts
    Wed, May 24 2017 1:42 PM

    LuckySkreet:

    Perhaps a golf course would enjoy participating in a virtual experience where their course can be played, enjoyed,   as a  "BIG Event" (Open)  Championship.   That sounds fantastic....until the course realizes that 50% of previous VUSO winners have been declared as cheats and their accounts have been disabled......  that's gotta leave a great taste in the mouth.

    Perhaps a golf course has a great desire to partner with an organization that  proclaims a "realistic golf experience".......  where cheats run rampant, players adorn tuxedos, the "clash" takes top billing, fairways are littered with fore caddies carrying tape measures and virtual rulers, golden and magical putters are awarded , golf carts are all equipped with a "swing meter boost button", premium "meow" balls are available in the pro shop,  multi's and re-starts are all hopped up on that  ball speed boost -level up bug juice,  and shooting a 54 may or might not make the cut......       I mean really folks....this is a realistic as it gets, I can't understand why golf courses are not standing in line to get some of this action......

    NAILED IT! Very good read Lucky. 

    Honestly, these 2 paragraphs summed it up but you took this entire topic to a whole other level. Again, very spot on points. 

    Also - I LOVED (below) the way you set the tone. Absolutely perfect. LOL!

    LuckySkreet:
    To qualify my following comments....  Let me first say I enjoyed Oakmont and will miss the opportunity to play the same on this platform.  I mean no disrespect to any of the post contributors.....      However, should the verbage hit a little close to home, or the shoe fits.....please feel free to take it personally and carry on with your rage as normal...  

  • drmoose
    3,543 Posts
    Wed, May 24 2017 2:10 PM

    Yep, definately one one of the more seriously thought out posts on this topic. WGT / Topgolf don't owe us anything other than a reasonably stable platform on which to enjoy the game. Failing that, the revenue will dry up, and we may lose more of what we've come here to enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I strongly feel there are many issues that should be addressed, but, I would gladly trade the loss of Oakmont, for the re-instatement of the end of game chat feature.

    Doc :)

  • AgentBrown123
    907 Posts
    Thu, May 25 2017 7:27 AM

    drmoose:

    WGT / Topgolf don't owe us anything other than a reasonably stable platform on which to enjoy the game.

    What's your basis behind saying they don't owe us anything? For those that have spent hundreds of dollars on the game and hundreds of hours I would strongly argue they do. Losing Oakmont is significant.

    We all deserved to get more than a one line "course is gone, so you can't play it" announcement

    drmoose:

    I would gladly trade the loss of Oakmont, for the re-instatement of the end of game chat feature.

    I hope you're joking

  • Robert1893
    7,722 Posts
    Thu, May 25 2017 7:43 AM

    AgentBrown123:
    What's your basis behind saying they don't owe us anything? For those that have spent hundreds of dollars on the game and hundreds of hours I would strongly argue they do.


    The basis is threefold.

    First, the base game is free. There is no obligation to make any purchases to play the game. Making purchases is the user's choice but is not required.

    Second, the purchases made were for specific products (balls, clubs, or other items). WGT delivered on what they promised. Users paid X amount of credits and received this set of clubs or that type of ball. WGT made no promises other than that.

    Third, they provide a way to make purchases without one having to spend money. Yes, a person will then have to spend time to complete surveys or watch videos. But the point remains that spending money is not required. WGT provides a way in which a person can pay without the outlay of cash. 

    The bottom line is that WGT doesn't require users to spend money to play the game, and they do deliver on the promises to those who do. People get the product they paid for. No one has ever paid WGT for the promise of the delivery of new courses or for a promise that they will explain why certain things take place (for example, the loss of Oakmont). Or if anyone did, I'm not sure how that worked.  

  • krskfr
    458 Posts
    Thu, May 25 2017 9:23 AM

    This Oakmont petition thread is one of the funniest things i've ever seen. You have a handful of players dismayed to the point that they threaten to quit playing over it, or even go to the extent of sending a letter or calling the Oakmont headquarters. First of all, like someone said earlier, we have no clue the parameters of the separation, whether it was amicable or not. For all we know WGT wasn't interested in extending the agreement. I find this thread extremely telling of how audacious some people are to think calling or sending letters will have any effect. I understand desperation, but i mean, wow! Ps, it's not up to WGT to let us know before hand that Oakmont will be gone - as customers and purveyors of free market capitalism, we hold the power of choice. Actions speak louder than words or empty threats, you're that upset, leave!!!! Bye bye! Great job WGT - this game has never been better!

  • Robert1893
    7,722 Posts
    Thu, May 25 2017 10:04 AM

    krskfr:
    even go to the extent of sending a letter or calling the Oakmont headquarters.


    I took that person's suggestion as tongue-in-cheek and goading people on. I didn't take that as a serious suggestion.  

  • alosso
    21,072 Posts
    Thu, May 25 2017 10:54 AM

    Robert1893:
    AgentBrown123:
    What's your basis behind saying they don't owe us anything? For those that have spent hundreds of dollars on the game and hundreds of hours I would strongly argue they do.


    The basis is threefold.

    *snips*

    Three valid points snipped in agreement.

    Let me add another one:

    On a legal basis, we are owning what is given in their T&Cs, and I'm eagerly waiting to see anybody citing these to the subject of communication. I've read them and I found nothing.

    On the contrary, I find "WGT will, without providing notice, be making ongoing modifications and improvements to [...]" in the 7th paragraph (highlighted by me).

    So:

    OAKMONT IS GONE. FULL STOP!

  • RyjaTybas
    5,150 Posts
    Thu, May 25 2017 11:25 AM

    alosso:
    OAKMONT IS GONE. FULL STOP!

    That may be the case, but its still dispiriting.

    I think I can speak for my (albeit small) CC and say the abrupt removal of Oakmont - without any explanation or replacement - has spoiled the game to a degree - especially in setting up tournaments and playing head-to-head

    We have lost 9% of our proper courses (excluding bandon and combos - and the Tru-Golf ones - which aren't available for CCs anyway, paid or otherwise) - which is quite noticeable.

    We may not get Oakmont back but WGT may not get paying customers back.

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