Hopefully you don't take this the wrong way, but I have to ask you, are you looking for answers? or a fight? Here's a couple of damn good players trying to help you, and you are scoffing them off. You have been on here long enough, and have played that course so much! You should have every blade of grass, every tree, leaf, and idiocy memorized by now. The better you get, the harder each course becomes, it is part of the game. Imho, if part of your game isn't going well, learn to make it up in another area, like making longer putts, my nickle