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These scores of low 50's

• frappefort 3,994 Posts

  Sun, Aug 7 2011 7:15 AM

  sorry, thought there was something wrong with low score ,just 2 months ago until i score 60 twice on difficult courses.  one of the game i left 3 putt 2inc short that would of giving me a score of 57.  and i beleive i could of done better like a 55..before thinking like me few months back  that there is some funny stuff going on play with a Legend. or a v good TM and you will all see how good they are i just got to TM ;course i was playing 77 on  have now become 67 ;soon i hope i am sure it  will become 57.i may never play a low 50 round  but i know its possible and i will trie my best :) good golf day sir

• sixkiller 1,147 Posts

  Sun, Aug 7 2011 7:58 AM

  macbar:

   Prove me wrong please or just stay out of it. I don't need to hear a bunch of smart ass remarks from those who have no clue

  PROVE yourself right, and not just some whining about what your not able to do! "two friggin pixels" is a bad miss to many in this game!

• lvietri 3,326 Posts

  Sun, Aug 7 2011 6:03 PM

  MacBar - i noticed you were not aware of how much spin effects the ball .. here's another thing.

  If you have Right to Left wind .. and you miss the ding on the left side of the line ... that ball is going to take off left way more than you ever expect .... the more spin .. even more effect.    The better players know and make sure on these shots they miss right of the line and use the wind to their advantage.    With the Callaway balls and 3 to 4 dots of spin it effects the ball even more.

• macbar 79 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 6:24 AM

  JaLaBar, the truth of the matter is that you absolutely DON'T have to listen to any whining. If you don't like what gets posted here then you should just stop reading the forums. I pay my money just like everyone else and, therefore, I have a right to my opinions. If you don't like what I have to say then read someone else's posts.

  If I didn't think that the game was worthwhile i wouldn't spend another minute on it but it damn well won't be because some moron like you tries to tell me what I can and cannot do. I'll have a civil discourse with anyone who has half a brain however, from the tone of your post I can see that you do not so just back off pal. 

• macbar 79 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 6:42 AM

  Ivietri, 

  I sincerely appreciate the tip. I never really gave much thought to the spin factor and I do tend to put some serious back spin on almost every approach shot. I will definitely give it a try it without the spin to see if it helps.

  I've been trying very hard to solve these problems with not much progress so far which has probably not done much for my frustration levels! I apologize if I sounded like a whiner. I am definitely not. I'm extremely competitive and my patience threshold has taken quite a few hits lately as I don't seem to experience most of these issues in MP rounds, just in the tourneys.

  Thanks again for the tips and hit 'em straight!

  mac

• iukine 195 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 12:21 PM

  lvietri:

  Iukine --- I'm sorry you feel attacked ... i'm not trying to do that at all ... just trying to show you there are 2 points of view ... i respect yours .. which you've already stated many times in all parts of the forum.   I just happen to disagree ... but i guess because i disagree (for the first time)  you would rather I keep my opinion to myself - right ?

  I agree  you are penalized because you don't have the time to play 70 times a day ... you are 100% right .. you are penalized ... because that is the way the contest has been set.   It's as simple as that.   I'm fine with others playing more often than I do - even if your not.

  I'd love to know what credits people pay to play in the unlimited games you are talking about.    The qualifying rounds or any of the unlimited tourneys I've seen are free for everyone to play - as many times as they like.    In 2 years I have never seen any unlimited tournaments which require a payment.  Did i miss something ???   As you stated --- What credits are being donated by the majority of customers on the site to the players who play these unlimited tournaments a lot ???   Please let me know.   Maybe I missed them. Or maybe I just can not figure out what you are talking about.

  
  Why does everything have to be fair ... life is not fair ... not in my world anyway.  If people want to work harder than I do .. they deserve to be rewarded .. don't they ???    What you are suggesting is like telling the pro golf community "everyone has to practice a course the same amount of times before a tournament or it isn't fair".   That's not the way it works.  Most of the time .. the best golfers practice the most ... that is why they are the best ... I applaud those who have the time to sit on their ass all day to play .. good for them.   If I were WGT i would cater to them .. they are the ones buying balls all day and supporting the site.

  And finally I'm sure there are a quite a few people who feel as you do .. they don't have the time to play .. so they want things changed to be "fair".  I respect (but disagree with ) their opinions also.    However  I can show you 2 lists of qualifiers from both major tournaments this year ... about 400 people ... and most (not all) of them will tell you they don't mind the unlimited qualifiers at all ... Where's your list ???

   

  Ok ivietry , let's see if I get this right. I give a suggestion that might aleviate some of the calls of cheat on the better players here, and you say I'm whining about fairness, what about this do you not get!!! That's all it is, a suggestion. What's your problem. none of what you wrote has anything to do with what I'm talking about. If you're gonna attack me, just keep your opinion to yourself, it's not needed here.

• iukine 195 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 12:41 PM

  borntobesting:

  As far as I know the only unlimited tourney that has ever charged a fee  is the NKF CTTH challenge and those credits or more precisely the monetary value of those credits is being donated to charity. 

  And Iukine why do you have the right to voice your opinion and Lou doesn't? As Lou said you have the right to voice your opinion but so do we. As long as we do it in a way that is not abusive.

  As for the unlimited tourneys especially the open qualifiers,I love them. It gives us a chance to try different things that we might not do if the tourney was a single play. In one U.S. Open qualifier round I played nothing but punch shots. I didn't hit a full shot for the full 18. If that were a single play tourney I would not even have considered doing that. Like you because of my 12 hour a day work schedule I can't play as much as some but I don't feel penalized because of that. I just work harder with the time that i do have. 

  Those aren't the only contests I'm talking about. And the guy is calling me out, and basically telling me that, what you're accusing me of. I'm supposed to sit here and take it?? In a way that's not abusive? C'mon man? you and this guy are buddies I can see that, don't care really. my thought was to change the format a little so the cut aint driven to crazy low #'s, so people will stop crying cheat. That's all!! and your buddy and claremoreblue deem it nescessary to call me out, what's up with that?! My suggestion would benefit them as well as you. Quiet the accusers of cheating and maybe level the playing field a little. With my suggestion, everyone still can play as many practice rounds as they want, but only 1 qualifying round and then the tournament(be it 1-4 rounds). Similiar to PGA style of setting up their competitions. I don't see any reason to be calling me out over that?! do you?

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 12:43 PM

  mohuyu:

  Excessive spin always leads to awry shots when the ding is missed even slightly. Its always best to play a shot with as little spin as you possibly can.

  To be honest, i use spin for every shot (except if i'm in between say 128 yards, so i'd use my 125 Pw with 3/4 spin). I find it a lot more accurate as i know the exact yardages of my irons with spin (wind taken into account aswell) and with these irons, every shot can act like a wedge, ball stops where you want it.  The only time i dont really use spin if i have a shot of say 195 yards on flat green, i could either use my 205 yarder with spin but minus a cm on power bar, or the 190 yarder with no spin with same taken off power bar.  I dont really notice any shots going more astray than usull for using spin all the time, except the usuall missing ding in same direction as wind, but that is to be expected.  I deffo feel my clubs yardages are more constant using spin than without, i.e my 160 yard iron will always be 156/157 yards with spin, but without, it varies between 162 and 169 (callaways)

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:04 PM

  Well, I'm not a buddy of Lou's, since he beats me in MPC, but wow, I see no where he was abusive at all, nor was BtbB.

  In fact lvetri even said he respected the opinion.

  Anyways, I can see your (Iukines) point but compare it to a real world PGA Tourney.

   

  Say you have commitments or issues that do not allow you to arrive on Monday before tourney starts on Thursday, and all you can do is get there Wednesday afternoon an get a few hours of practice in, while 90% of the field got there on Sunday night and had 3 1/2 days of extra practice.

  The PGA does not tell the players you only get "one practice round", heck, they can do 3 a day if they choose to do so.

  Now again, I understand your reasoning to level the playing field, but just because "Player X" only gets 1 hour a week free time, "Player Y" should not be held back.

  Personally I'd like practice to be unlimited, then run a 4 game tourney using the cuts similar to PGA to narrow the field to the final two rounds.

• frappefort 3,994 Posts

  Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:13 PM

  please for the all the new members getting to play and enjoing this great game .stop talking about cheaters ect   .i am sure there is no cheating on this game ;..s.because some players can not play this game well and get frustrated they start rumers.....when i started has a hack and started reading negative post ..i almost stop playing....... since my score have come dawn a lot   i may not have the skills to play a low round ...but in 8 months i became TM ....i am not cheating  would not know how  stop this negative TALK PLEASE