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Re: A question for WGTadmin2

Tue, Jul 8 2014 9:01 AM (99 replies)
  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 2:13 PM

    duffer19:
    i'll throw out a random # here - the heavily handicapped would still win 70% of the time - isn't that enough to keep them happy too :)

    A good handicap system says if you play your very best, you will win or place in the top 3 once every six games.

    Most of the really good CC's have some form of a handicap system, which is really good for everyone.  The only issue is if you were to compare 10 CC handicap systems, you would have 10 different methods.

    It would be nice if WGT would develop a universal handicap system so we could setup CC vs. CC handicapped events.

  • WinterHawk1951
    392 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 2:26 PM

    Well said!

     

     

  • WGTadmin2
    1,152 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 5:49 PM

    agreed

  • WGTadmin2
    1,152 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 5:51 PM

    Would you implement and sand bagging controls?

  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 6:39 PM

    WGTadmin2:

    Would you implement and sand bagging controls?

    Check out section 10-3 of the USGA Handicap manual.  If each CC establishes a handicap committee (and WGT also maintains a method to post exceptional tourney scores for their tourneys), if a player has two exceptional tourney scores, their handicap can be revised.

    Here's a link to rule #10 ... check out rule #10-3 to see how you and other CC's can combat "sandbagging"  Also, there's a great article from "PopeOfSlope.COM on combating golf sandbaggers ... give it a look.

    Edit:  You can also add the Knuth Tournament Point System to your handicap system ... here's an article that describes it ... Click here.

    The "Pope of Slope" is Dean L. Knuth ... here's the link to the "about section" from this website.  Check it out.

  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 7:25 PM

    This is awesome... DaddysKat, If you can bring this home, you'll be my hero..  ;)

     

    edit..  "Heroine"

    Does it make a difference?  Not sure, just covering my bases.  :)

  • DaddysKat
    3,554 Posts
    Mon, Jul 7 2014 8:03 PM

    ISH47:
    If you can bring this home, you'll be my hero..  ;)

    I've said the same thing to WGTAdmin2!  One can dream, right?  lol.

  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Tue, Jul 8 2014 12:55 AM

    haha.. YES!!  

  • cdefghi
    2,872 Posts
    Tue, Jul 8 2014 4:30 AM

    Almost every good RLG -- CC has at least 1 or 2 major tournaments a year, similar to our majors here at WGT.  In most cases the biggest of them all is a 3 day event featuring members competing against each other from different qualifying levels- i.e. Champ-- 1rst flight-- 2nd flight-- etc. etc. etc. Our 2nd big tournament is a 2 day member guest.  In both tournaments, in both CC's that I've had the privilage to be a member of, the player(s) who win the tournament 1 year have a 2 stroke reduction from the handicap that either they won the tournament at, or at their current GHIN index, whichever is the lowest, the following year.  I've had the honor to win at least once in both the 3 day member member, and the 2 day member guest. I bore no hard feelings competing the year after having my index reduced and even repeated one year with the 2 shot reduction on both myself and my brother's USGA index, in the 2 day member/guest.  He lives quite a ways away and just getting to compete alongside him, is victory enough for both of us.

    It seems the main reason this is done is not as much to reduce sandbagging, ( although that purpose is probably also served), but to give everyone involved a chance of winning one of these majors and having an opportunity to receive a free membership the following golf season, or in the case of the 2 day member/ guest, a free set of clubs. In both there are plenty of opportunities to win loads of cash, either in the para-mutual, or from all the side action bets on the night before kick-off. It really should be all about the comraderie and competing for the chance to win, not just winning year after year anyway.

    If in fact, WGT ever got with the times and created a system similar to the USGA's index system, and implemented this stroke reduction on winners the following major, many more people would have the honor to win one of these majors here at WGT, not just the same 2 or 3 people all the time.  My 2 cents for what it's worth.

  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Tue, Jul 8 2014 9:01 AM

    We started setting up 2 separate prize/credit tourneys.. One for Master+ and another for TP and below.. it's kind of expensive to do that though.. and also we started doing it too late I guess because all the lower tiers have went AWOL on us. Now we only have about maybe 15 that play in anything.. but I love those guys.. haha.

    CC's are the only place that some of us can feel competitive.. I'd like to see a lot more work from WGT to beef them up.

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