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Sun, Nov 3 2013 11:23 AM (95 replies)
  • fancygirl4u
    91 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 1:23 PM

    I had a 4 person stroke play today on the Best 5 Par Holes in which I was booted off 3 times and then removed for the  game I started. What is wrong with WGT  that they have to do that to a person. Thats a lousy way to be treated and i hope it stops.

  • Rzbk
    376 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 4:35 PM

    renniw52:

    Is hanging down the same as hanging out? Lonnie will use discretion I am sure. I can fully understand the gripes and complaints in the forums, the personal attacks are unwanted and completely unwarranted, if you feel the need to do so, put them on the targets personal wall. You can hash it out between the two of you and the rest of us can get back to more important things. Things, like all our complaints with WGT. OR NOT. My little time away has been ambushed by the forums. I can't help but read them and make the occasional comment.  Be nice all, make your comments, please stop the personal attacks. Sometimes silence is golden, be the bigger person.

    EXCELLENT POINT Renniw.

    Yes, I know. Very late reply but an excellent post should have no time limit to make a comment. 

     

     

     

     

  • dabberme
    88 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 6:08 AM

    Pay no attention to this absolutely know nothing guy Fancy. Me and may others are having this problem and people are talking about it. They can't all be wrong. One of the messages says there has been a problem with the Program  please close window and try again later. Read some of this dudes blogs and you will see what and who he is.

  • dabberme
    88 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 7:41 AM

    Lol: there you go with your superiority complex. I don't follow you around, you just keep popping up with your silly blather and not allowing anyone to have their opinion. "I'd hate to have to do something about it. "!!!!!  Is that a threat???   Showing what a fraud you are the pic is in my profile on here. Found it on the web??? lol

    As log as you blabber on it will pop up on my computer so it's you who should be ashamed with your silly biased comments. Your a product of your own imagination. Juvenile as it is.

     

  • dabberme
    88 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 8:35 AM

    I have 58 comments. You have over 2500 nothing more needs to be said.  Bring it on fella but tread very very carefully.

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 8:47 AM

    hyena64:

    Bout a 98% chance that wgt had nothing to do with booting anyone.  Just because you see the "there has been an error" screen from wgt doesn't mean there has been a problem with wgt.

    That is a preposterous statement!  You have no facts to back this up.  You're shooting from the hip as you have no credentials to make those statements. And where did fancygirl mention the "there has been an error" screen?  What are you thinking?

    Anyway

    A few points:

    -The full message is: "UNEXPECTED ERROR  WE'RE SORRY THERE HAS BEEN AN ERROR WITH THE GAME.  PLEASE CLOSE THIS WINDOW AND TRY AGAIN LATER.  THANKS WGT"  (the all caps is WGT's not mine)

    -As a retired software developer/manager with 30 years experience, that message tells me exactly what it says. The WGT program has encountered a variable or event it does not recognize.  Its a bad value.  Stuff happens.  A rare series or particular sequence of events happens that were not anticipated.  Maybe it fell through a CASE statement for example and typically you then invoke an error handling routine which decides what to do.  Retry? Punt?  In this case WGT decides its better to punt than perhaps lock up the game client window or crash the server or whatever.  Its a fail-safe technique.

    -Millions of single play rounds are played without seeing these errors.  I cannot remember the last time I failed to complete a single player round.

    -What's different on multi-player then?  I don't recall it ever being mentioned before but there is a 3rd party software platform involved in multiplayer games.  In 2007 it was called Neutron 4.0. Produced by Exit Games.  Read that to understand Neutron (I think now upgraded to Photon) runs on the WGT server, communicates with our game clients when in multiplayer games,  whether its Windows, Apple, mobile iOS whatever, and handles all the multiplayer game lobby, game setup (find a game) searches, and sequencing needed.  Of course there is WGT application specific code running within Neutron as well.  But Neutron is handling all the connections.

    -Neutron is also determining if we have disconnected.  Here's an interesting post from the Exit Games Flash client forum: Debugging Client disconnect issue   I quote:

    "some of our clients report intermittent disconnect even though their wifi network is pretty stable, and with low round trip times."  and

    "clients are disconnected even though they have stable internet. e.g. they have low ping, can listen music, watch video, play games online. However, at the same time they are disconnected from the server with TimeoutDisconnect reason."

    Gee that sounds familiar.  Could Neutron need adjustment to be less sensitive to not receiving data or ACKs from clients (our PCs) in a certain amount of time.

    Its a distinct possibility IMO.  And its on WGT to make the change on their Neutron software.  We don't have disconnect problems in single player games.

     

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