jeffdos924:
Ivories78: I do read the forum posts
You must have just started reading forum posts today :)
Go back and read posts for the last several months ...how many people have been pissing & moaning because the same handful of people were consistently winning tournaments. What did a lot of these same " unimpressed players" want to avoid that? .. MORE TIERS ... we have them now. When WGT added the pro & master tiers last year, an awful lot of people got bumped up into a tier that they probably weren't ready for. It sucks, but the only way to avoid that would be to start everybody over from scratch ...no credits, starter equipment, etc.
Ivories78: t's a simple formula - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Again, read the forums ! ....in the last 2 months alone, there have probably been a couple hundred posts about quitters & sandbaggers.
Adding levels will work to cut down on both of those, in my mind. In order to unlock better equipment, one is going to have to PLAY .. and finished mutli-player rounds will add to your level more so than single-player rounds .... should, and i repeat, SHOULD cut down on the number of people that bail on matches.
I don't know what affect the changes will really have on the sandbagging issue ... I think we will always have that .... and i really could care less. And I think that people's fears of lower tiered players having superior equipment isn't going to be much different than it is now.
An example of that was shown to me a week or so ago. I played a MPC with some amateur ( 88ish avg.) This guy had played a grand total of 3 ranked rounds ... in early May..enough to gain the amateur status and, as such, he had purchased the Rapture pro set. ..255 yrd driver from the ladies tees is more than a little advantage over any pro/master. At least with the new system of levels, that same player is going to really have to put in some serious playing time before he/she can unlock the better equipment( and more than likely will advance tiers as well).
WGT just released the new tiers/levels today and let's face it .. change hurts, sometimes. Complaining about it, or threatening to leave the game just seems a little premature to me.
Sorry for being so long-winded ... I'm not normally. I just think people should actually give the new system a chance before condemning it.
Jeff
Greens speeds do not change because of average,handi cap, or ranking in the real game of golf, which this WGT game is trying to simulate,,,,, To condem this game seems unjust for a few I know. But in thinking of what will become of the game of golf, on this site, is transpiring before our eye's, in WGT's logic the changing of rank and tiers will improve and give all a fair advantage,,Well golf is set up on a handi cap system,,, you play to that, your handi cap,,, It would be easy to have tourneys for pros or masters, and now even legends,, and let us play the same green speeds together as in real Golf. But now WGT has taken that away from us and calls it a fairness to all,,,, I don't think so,,,,,,, I think they just opened a door, to other high ranked player who will now be moving to, and opening other accounts on this site, so they can compete once again, and for what ever reason,,,I won't go there!!!,,,,, it is easy to open more than one account, I myself have played on this site against others who are doing this, it is not right, and also it is my nature not to, as I love the game of golf and what it has stood for in it's respect of the game, I love the true meaning of this sport we call Golf,,,,,, but you can bet money or credits,,,,there are many now doing this,, and yes even more because of these last changes WGT have made,,,,,, You keep playing and changing how a game is to be played and mess with a persons fun time, or enjoyment and they will leave,,, and worse yet, they will just see this as another money making scam, and do whatever they can to find a way to beat the system,,,,, Don't get me wrong,,,, I enjoy playing the game of Golf and I have enjoyed playing on this site.
The tiers were OK,,, but to change the green speeds was a great mistake I feel,,, but I do play real golf, and the green speeds there, at best only change when I play different courses,,,,but still remain the same for all in that days play, No matter what the handi cap is for each player,,,,Hummm
Yes this is, and becoming more of a gambling site and us who want to play golf for it's true reward,,,,need to think seriously about that.
I have been playing on this site for more than a year, I have put my share of money into this game in buying equipment so I can reach my best in it's rankings to become a Master. And to play this game Golf with others for the fun of just competing. They now, or I should say they change again the way this game is to be played only to benifit there bank, It seems. I wished, I was wrong, but as I read these forum post by other,,, I see what is much like the politics of the day,,, confuse the masses and they WGT will overcome. I hate to speak like this,,, but I have seen this in many other games played.
My apologies to all the real golfer on this site, that I have may have offended,,,but this is no longer the game I remember, and that I have played four hour and had fun in doing so with others. It is not fair to take away what we have earned, and they have done that,,, by what they call giving or moving us up in tiers or ranking.
Slapped across the face is what I feel,,,,, Keep your credits WGT, give me my reward in the earning of the many friends I have made on this site,,,I pay to play on,,,,I don't need your stinking money! or credits! Give me the same greens and opportunity to climb the ladder equally with others as in the past.
This game is not as easy as some would think,, we have our good days, but for the most who play it like the real game of golf,,, we have many bad days,,, a slump can take weeks to come out of,,, but we strive to overcome those times, and help each other through them. Even with the daily problems with the meter,,,and it's many monsters. Upset? Yes I am,, Whinning? maybe you can call it that. But fair is not what I see happening here. Not as golf would have it be anyway, we true golfers have a respect for the game, as should be, and honor is not given but earned, on an equal playing field for all.
Ken,,,