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2016 Course plans ?

• zagraniczniak 1,984 Posts

  Thu, Sep 17 2015 2:35 PM

  CanineSupervisor:

  I just played Oakmont in July, after 13 days, I think it was, of rain in the Pittsburgh area. The pin locations we have here are the ones I played there.

  I might add, that the real course is much more difficult than we play here, esp. hole 1 and 2 with the pins in lower right green and upper left green respectively. Those greens are so steep that it isn't funny. Holes 9 and 18 are definitely no picnic either.

  After a torturous 6 hours there and 18 holes later, I was glad that I was somewhat familiar with the greens due to WGT's attention to detail on pin locations and contour mapping.

  To add other pins, that I believe the grounds crew or caddies told me didn't exist, would be a travesty to that magnificent, skill-challenging course.

  Interesting. I would guess any golf hole would have maybe 5 or 6 basic variations on pin placement. But on the other hand the tournament guidelines require a certain degree of flatness around the hole for the placement to be considered "fair" (a word I hesitate to use in the same sentence as the word "golf").

  Consider e.g. the 15th at Bethpage Black. The lower pin placement we most often see would I think be ruled in real life to be too vertical. From what I have seen this leaves the upper right (our alternative placement) and the upper left, which was used in the US Open but not by WGT. 

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Thu, Sep 17 2015 5:11 PM

  Yasch:

  This was mentioned in late April of 2011 by Icon

  Be rest assured WGTers, they do not do anything quickly! The burning question is, Why would they take so long to reveal new pin placements? If these new pin locations were photographed way back when, shame on WGT for keeping them in the vault for so long. 

  Yasch, In Icon's April of 2011 post he was speaking of the 2nd set of Oakmont pins.  And Icon was correct.  The 2nd set of Oakmont pins was delivered in September 2011!  Scroll down halfway on this News page for the 2011 announcement.

  There are 2 sets of pins on Oakmont already!

  Shoe must be referring to a 3rd set of pins on Oakmont (which would be most welcome).

   

• Yasch 310 Posts

  Thu, Sep 17 2015 9:52 PM

  Thanks for your investigative work, Andy.

  Complete oversight on my part. Maybe it is because I only seem to ever get the the one set of pins, whenever an alt. shot game is selected there. I rarely play stroke tourneys there.

  New pin locations would be welcome @ Oakmont, as well as some of the other courses, but not without proper camera angles to support them.

   

• Sikkum 88 Posts

  Thu, Sep 17 2015 10:49 PM

  ApexPC:

  Many courses do not want to be included here on WGT.

  Holy hell....do you blame them???????

• tuxedo2 5,293 Posts

  Fri, Sep 18 2015 11:39 PM

  mathia14:

  Yasch:

  WGTdbloshoe:

  In terms of Oakmont, there is no exact plan set in place, but most likely some new pins.

  This was mentioned in late April of 2011 by Icon

  Be rest assured WGTers, they do not do anything quickly! The burning question is, Why would they take so long to reveal new pin placements? If these new pin locations were photographed way back when, shame on WGT for keeping them in the vault for so long. 

  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is not the business plan of WGT to attract new customers, and retain those who have been here for years? I fail to see the benefit to anyone, if in fact there are properly photographed new pin locations for those courses released prior to 2012 (as an example).There is no need for me to go into the guesswork that they did with Kiawah. I have seen the new pins @ RSG, but that was in a CTTH RG, and there were no putting challenges there. Not sure if there have been any other CTTH's with new pin placements?

  Again, this idea of new pin locations @ Oakmont, was mentioned by a WGT mod over 4 years ago. I will leave it at that.

   

  Funny that WGT hasn't heard of Google Earth yet..  Just thinking outloud.

  Saw a video a year or so ago on how the courses are photographed using helicopters..... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say drones just might cut the cost and the time it takes down to about 10%....

   

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Sat, Sep 19 2015 12:02 AM

  tuxedo2:

   I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say drones just might cut the cost and the time it takes down to about 10%....

  Drones with lazers? Sounds like a great game. Who needs golf?

   

• drmoose 3,543 Posts

  Mon, Sep 21 2015 12:51 PM

  courteneyfish:

  Drones with lazers?

  No, I'm pretty sure WGT already uses gnomes with lazers, they're much more advanced.

  Doc :)

• axstrat 415 Posts

  Tue, Oct 13 2015 10:55 PM

  courteneyfish:

  Drones with lazers? Sounds like a great game. Who needs golf?

   

  hehehehe

• axstrat 415 Posts

  Tue, Oct 13 2015 11:03 PM

  this is just a suggestion but why does it have to be one of those big league see-it-on-tv type  course?

  There a bazillion public and private courses out there that are fun to play in real life

  Like this one (although I wouldnt actually suggest it as another addition)  that my wife and I golf at pretty often  (hey, its cheap and and close)

   

  http://loonlakegolf.com/home.html

  Just my 2 cents 

• alanti 10,564 Posts

  Wed, Oct 14 2015 1:31 AM

  axstrat:

  Like this one (although I wouldnt actually suggest it as another addition)  that my wife and I golf at pretty often  (hey, its cheap and and close)

  Yes there are a ton of courses that probably would like to be on WGT, think of the exposure, especially when many clubs struggle financially.

  But a quick look at this course and it is way to short in length, as are many municipal and private clubs. They would simply get obliterated scoring wise on WGT.

  But good value............although I have never been a fan of 9 hole tracks.