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Bracket fraud part 2? (@ the mods)

Sat, Sep 16 2017 8:25 PM (126 replies)
  • razza31
    703 Posts
    Thu, Jan 28 2016 7:19 AM

    micheldess:

    Maybe the solution  when the two players withdraw in the final is to give first place credit to the player with the best score in the semi final and second place credit to the other.

    Bracket rounds are isolated rounds with no connection to any earlier round. Clear solution would be 40% to both players. Its obviously a bug but they don't want to treat it as one as maybe the code for brackets are really twitchy and changes may unstabilize it. You'd think its not a frequent occurrence in itself, the least they can do is to have CS credit the 40% when contacted.

  • darek2
    1,880 Posts
    Thu, Jan 28 2016 2:57 PM

    4 me   so  far never  happen , knock on wood

     but couple times, many  players  WD so i skip 1 game (1/8)  but semi or  final  always i post

     WGT  can't take your  cr''s   from brackets  .  we add a cr's , even it's  no winner !

    they  need split cr's  or pay to semi (1/4) more, if  final's  dont  like to play  or  different reason  

    wgt, don't add ur  cr's  and  don't play!!!

  • duffer19
    3,670 Posts
    Thu, Jan 28 2016 5:42 PM

    WGTdbloshoe:

    Brackets were set up this way and are not changing. The easiest way to fix this is if you are in the final and can play the round to post a score.  We are not taking credits away or being devious in trying to trick players into losing credits. You can call it rubish or whatever you want, but when you enter the bracket you know you need to post scores to move on or win. Just making it to the final round does not mean you deserve anything. Again if you want to win and not lose credits play the round.  I am sorry but in my mind this is a non discussion and not something that needs to be answered over and over again. 

     

     

    - WGTdbloshoe 

    avoid gray area to live in - personally and professionally - business is not exempt - 

    live the gray - and it's bound to get dark

    right is right - wrong is wrong - aint a wgt sponsored event, they're paid per player who enters

    if someone gains at the expense of others just cuz that's the way it is - is full on dark gray man - 

    shame on you

     

  • darek2
    1,880 Posts
    Thu, Jan 28 2016 6:37 PM

    100% u right , u need  a play to have  a cr's

      just  is  1 bug with  both WD at  final,

    wgt   cant take  this  credits  so   u need split  somewhere 

  • xxxhogheadxxx
    949 Posts
    Sat, Jan 30 2016 3:52 PM

    I'm changing the subject a bit here just because I know a lot of people are watching this thread...  (it kinda sorta applies here)

    I would advise everyone to record (in any digital fashion you wish) your scorecards when completing brackets.  

    Reason is that I'm in a heck of a battle with WGT customer service and the principal aim is to get them to review (and correct) their tiebreaker rules.

    At this point, it seems i'm speaking to a concrete wall.

    just fyi, i'd advise all to be able to show 'proof' of scores when needed (their words, not mine).

  • ZioMio
    4,680 Posts
    Sat, Jan 30 2016 4:38 PM

    xxxhogheadxxx:
    just fyi, i'd advise all to be able to show 'proof' of scores when needed (their words, not mine).

    And may I add, you should record the time you played. If I understand the tie-breaking rules correctly, when all things are equal, the earliest time a card is posted will be declared the winner.

  • xxxhogheadxxx
    949 Posts
    Sat, Jan 30 2016 5:28 PM

    ZioMio:

    xxxhogheadxxx:
    just fyi, i'd advise all to be able to show 'proof' of scores when needed (their words, not mine).

    And may I add, you should record the time you played. If I understand the tie-breaking rules correctly, when all things are equal, the earliest time a card is posted will be declared the winner.

    Exactly ZioMio.  Unfortunately, WGT's program doesn't follow its own rules.

     

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Sat, Jan 30 2016 5:32 PM

    Pay out the finalists you thieving tightwads.  You get you'r 10% as it is.  You have no right to keep both finalists $$ if you're paying the 3rd and 4th for losing anyway.  I thought i had heard it all on this site, but WGT keeps stooping to lower and lower depths.  What next, Ready go's pay WGT the winnings and winner gets the 10% fee instead.  You charge us $5 + for balls as it is,  its the least you can do for a bit of customer satisfaction.  

  • PhiEaglesFan
    617 Posts
    Sat, Jan 30 2016 5:51 PM

    Don't let this thread die until they either change the payouts rules or change the tournament rules to concisely explain the current requirements.

    Not changing the "rule" is fine, it's their game and if they think that's fair (it's obviously not) it's their right to do so.  However, if they're not going to change the rule, then the rule must be explained.

    Why is that so difficult to acknowledge?

  • jayw4862
    3,364 Posts
    Sat, Jan 30 2016 6:17 PM

    The rules do state the earliest posted score is the winner of ties. There is no countback in brackets. 

    I've been told I'm wrong about tie-breakers. I do remember posting a score last week, and once finished, seeing that my opponent had posted the same score. I took that as a loss, until I advanced.

    I record every bracket I am in, I record my score, whether my opp. has played, and I do this several times until the bracket is finished. If I'm on, I'll record the final countdown, too.

    Ever since the other bracket glitch/bug, the brackets have worked fine, for me anyway. I'll see in a little over an hour if the tie goes to first posted scorecard or not. I played the bracket as soon as it opened. When I completed the round, there was 23 hours 31 minutes remaining. My opponent in this particular final had not posted a score as of 5 hours remaining, but now has, and we both have 28's. It ends in about 1 hour from now.

    Luckily for me, I have only one remaining bracket final to watch, and then I'm gone from the bracket set until I can play and no have to monitor it so closely.

    The solution to this monitoring, would be for premium brackets to show "past results" just as RG's show. That cannot be too difficult.

    The only way to check it now, is to find it in your score history, and your opponents history and compare.

     

     

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