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Sat, Mar 3 2018 12:03 AM (120 replies)
  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 10:36 AM

    YankeeJim:
    What's to respect? That's a selfish move that just exposes one for being a jerk. Learn it-share it.

    Maybe to the person who is too self centered to build a relationship, make connections, subscribe to someone's youtube channel helping them possibly to monetize their videos, offering donations/gifts, do research on their own, and who want something or everything for nothing without putting in any work themselves.

    If someone just blindly wants something for nothing, then that is the person who is being selfish.  but that is just my humble opinion.

     

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 11:26 AM

    el3n1:
    If someone just blindly wants something for nothing, then that is the person who is being selfish

    By that logic sharing information isn't sharing, it's selling. What do I ask for when someone comes to me for help with a browser or a shot or anything, for that matter-a sleeve of balls?Credits? There's nothing at all selfish about asking for help without the expectation you'd have to pay for the answer. The selfish one is the one that expects a return for their help.

  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 12:03 PM

    YankeeJim:
    . The selfish one is the one that expects a return for their help.

    there is a difference between an expectation and saying thank you, building a rapport with a person, and offering someone something whether it is expected or not.  

    here is a similar dynamic...CC often bring in new members, they prefer active members, I have read negative comments or disapproval of those members who just show up for the free "stuff" and then those players do not even attempt to use their FREE CC passes to help the CC earn points, they don't participate in forums, they don't use free passes for clashes, you simply hear nothing from them.  "they are considered freeloaders" offering nothing back to the community they are a part of.  

    there are a wide variety of dynamics in play, and on one hand it may seem like "selling" but isn't really selling but simply wanting a mutual respectful relationship.  

    if a person comes to you directly asking for something, then odds are you already have built a rapport with that person they know you, they are not coming out of the blue.  yes, that can happen and depending on the circumstances it can be handled in different ways.  my personal preference is to try and be considerate of those I ask something of because I do not want to exploit their hard work without trying to offer them something in return...even if it is my friendship, playing rounds together, inviting them to our CC to be part of a community.

    thoughtful, considerate people generally feel inclined to say thank you in some way or form, that doesn't mean they are "paying for the advice" or the other person is "selling" it.  it is simply part of a healthy dynamic between two people that can build a rapport with one another...

     

  • callaghan159
    6,365 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 1:10 PM

    AgentBrown123:
    The new owners "topgolf" want to make a quicker buck but in turn will burn their ***.


    IMHO I think they don't want to fix the issue with the fast tier risers and multi accounts because this is the beginning of the end. Just my 37 credits worth.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 1:42 PM

    el3n1:
    it is simply part of a healthy dynamic between two people that can build a rapport with one another...

    No, it's called being a teacher. Plain and simple. No rapport needed, take it or leave it. No expectations, thanks  or room reservations needed for a love affair. All one has to do is ask. 

    Of me, anyway.  :-)

  • Luckystar5
    1,641 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 1:52 PM

    Sorry, I must disagree!  Teachers, instructors, professors, and tutors, are all paid positions.  Mentors, friends, that offer up advise, on the other hand arent, but if someone were gracious enough to offer up a free gift, for their advise, then that's a different colored horse!  Besides that, most people hate teachers because they usually are dictators of what they preach, with no variance allowed! 

  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 2:02 PM

    that's odd, teachers often receive gifts from their students and they are being paid to do their job.  there are some "spiritual" teachers that are not technically paid, but I have found that even those individuals in this day and age still seek to monetize their "gifts of teaching."

    The other thing I find puzzling, I believe not long ago I sent a friend request to you and it appears to have never been accepted or declined.  And that is fine, it is your choice, but it also appears to go against what you claim above..."all one has to do is ask."  isn't a friend invitation asking for a connection?

    I don't believe you are indifferent or being selfish, but my experience for whatever reason seems to become conflicted with you.  I don't know why that is, I have no issue with you, I don't believe I have ever criticized you intentionally, so it just puzzles me.  

    We are all permitted to have our own perspectives sometimes that is counterproductive and other times it allows us to learn and grow.  In that way...we are all teachers in a generalized sense but sometimes others choose to not be receptive to any thought, idea or position other than their own.  I appreciate what you have sought to share and wish there were truly more people who genuinely shared without expectation, but it also won't stop me from wanting to share my "thank you" in whatever form that may be if someone offers me a valuable tip or lesson.  

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 2:32 PM

    King's X here, man. I'm talking strictly about learning  this game (which I thought was the subject of the thread) not life in general. You guys are on a way different plane. 

    el3n1:
    I believe not long ago I sent a friend request to you and it appears to have never been accepted or declined.

    It was declined. My list is comprised of players I actually play golf with on a regular basis-99% AS- plus my CC buds, not people I interact with in the forums. There's a 255 number cap on it before weirdness sets in so I keep it below that.  :-)

     

  • el3n1
    4,502 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 3:33 PM

    YankeeJim:

    It was declined. My list is comprised of players I actually play golf with on a regular basis-99% AS- plus my CC buds, not people I interact with in the forums. There's a 255 number cap on it before weirdness sets in so I keep it below that.  :-)

    I can respect that, but i hope you can see why a few of your post along with you decline could give off a different perception rather than being completely open to those that reach out.  No harm done, just trying to let you see how these things can come across differently than intended ... 

    Fairways and greens guys!

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Thu, Feb 22 2018 4:22 PM

    el3n1:
    i hope you can see why a few of your post along with you decline could give off a different perception rather than being completely open to those that reach out. 

    No, can't say that I do. I don't recall ever turning down somebody that asked for help. Not sure what perception that creates.

    el3n1:
    just trying to let you see how these things can come across differently than intended

    Assuming there was intent, which there wasn't. Your perception is on you, not me. 

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