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• Teedaawg 276 Posts

  Sun, Dec 25 2011 8:45 AM

  OK Genorb,

  I got ya right up to the (/) or (*)...I understand the Distance + or - the elevation to get a total distance...then ya got this [1 - 0.004 *10] 1 minus .004 = .96 then what is (*10)???

  Maybe others get it and I'm just slow??? Please expound...thanks!

  Tee

• genorb 1,255 Posts

  Sun, Dec 25 2011 11:17 AM

  Teedaawg:

  then what is (*10)???

  In those examples I used a wind of 10mph, so that 10 is just the wind velocity.

  Regards

   

• Hanswurst72 1,097 Posts

  Sun, Dec 25 2011 12:46 PM

  Pretty much well explained by genorb. My math might be a bit more theoretical, not giving a preformed function type but rather searching for a best possible function solve to some experimentally found knowledge. But his easy formula should be solid enough ;)

  Cheers, Hans

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Sun, Dec 25 2011 5:37 PM

  Very interesting.... How do you calculate cross winds?

  -Roger

• Teedaawg 276 Posts

  Sun, Dec 25 2011 9:56 PM

  Right, I see that you used 10 as your wind speed but how is it used in your formula? I see you used 1 - 0.004 for the wind; so how do you calculate a 18, 25, or 30 mph wind? Sorry to put you through this; it's just that I struggle with the higher winds and really want to figure this out!

  D' = [150 + 12/3] / [1 - 0.004 *10] = 154 /  0.96 = 160 yds

  Tee

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Sun, Dec 25 2011 10:51 PM

  Not belittling anything posted, but I think I now am seeing the difference between players and gamers.

  I guess I'm an idiot for not "gaming", especially for entering the same RG's all month, and thinking "man, I should write things down as I go", then just playing anyways...lol.

  My WGT New Years resolution will be to game it during my rounds, not with the formulas, but taking notes of breaks/etc on the green and exact wind effects.

  I guess treating this game the way I play in real life is not the way it needs to be played.

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Mon, Dec 26 2011 12:30 AM

  MBaggese:

   

  I guess treating this game the way I play in real life is not the way it needs to be played.

  Yep that's the way to play this game MB. Treat it as a game and your laughing.  We sometimes see people writing, 'If this game is meant to be the same as real golf, Why are are people shooting in the low 50's' The answer to that is, The real life Pros will shoot in the low 60's, cause this is a game..take 10 shots off that.

  I use to write down everything, wind direction, club used, how far it went..etc. It's not a bad way of doing things. Moved house a few times and lost all those notes...lol.

  The Formula looks very interesting, but alas, it's a bit too complicated for my brain...lol.

  Cheers

     Roger

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Mon, Dec 26 2011 12:56 AM

  I hear ya Roger, and for all those listening/reading, please don't take this the wrong way.

  In a nutshell, I love Golf.  I never went to the range and wrote down anything about my clubs I just learned to hit them got familiar with the distance and played from there.  Same as I do here on WGT.

  In my opinion, I think that if you are a RL golfer, that's how you play here.  You enjoy the challenge of a 20 mph headwind, and can you play the 5 iron with topspin, or 4 iron with BS,,you know just like are you knocking down a club to stay under the wind, or muscling up?

  If you are a gamer who doesn't play golf, you have no idea what I mean, but let me put it this way, golfers enjoy the challenge at hand, there is no way to beat the elements, no formula to use from a 100 yards out.

  The enjoyment (for me, and I think for players, not gamers) is to say....."hmmn, 100yards out into a 20 mph cross wind, punch the wedge, full lob, short 9 iron?????" then pick the shot and be close to the hole.

  Heck, I don't want a Rodney Dangerfield putter (look up Caddyshack), I want to play and have fun.

  Hey, ya'll go with the formulas that got you here and will get you to where you want to be, but all you have done is solve a math equation at the end of the day...did you have fun with that?

• Hanswurst72 1,097 Posts

  Mon, Dec 26 2011 3:01 AM

  I solve math equations the whole day long and have fun with it, why not do it here too as a little challenge. At least these are "practical" problems to solve, and they are not even trivial in certain spots. By the way, i'm a 4 hcp golfer in real life.... and i believe that you can only get close to the top here with the golf knowledge AND the math knowledge.

  =) Good luck all!

• lvietri 3,326 Posts

  Mon, Dec 26 2011 3:03 AM

  Here's the math to explain Deviations .... Enjoy.