Forums

Release Notes

• 2,840 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:17 PM

  TWOMINUSONE:

  WGTdbloshoe:

  TWOMINUSONE:

  Shoe, you stated that newer players to the game have been requesting this, so to speak. Here is a post i made in another thread regarding the putting grid:

  Not great at all, my honest opinion on this. I can handle it just about, but we never asked for it. The post that shoe put up saying that new members complained about this is bull. We all started in the same place, and we all learnt how to play the greens. If this is supposed to help new players, then i would expect my putting to improve, but we all know that wont happen, eh WGT?

  So you see what im getting at here Shoe?

   

  Your opinion.  Instead of assuming it won't help.... see how it goes for a little while.  Who knows you may be surprised.

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

  We shall see. And stop with the Saturday stuff, will ya, lol.

   

  Only if you send WGTIcon some pink vapor balls on Saturday LOL

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

• 2,840 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:20 PM

  mkg335:

  WGTdbloshoe:

  mkg335:

  Third, enlarging the putting grid dots was a bad move and should be undone...the larger dots really do give what is and what should be a classy game a very cheap arcade look and feel.  Newcomers should have difficulty putting and learning the game in general.  That's what keeps folks coming back for more, the learning process and the challenge of improving.

  Agree the game should be challenging.  But if the game is to hard, players quite and never come back. 

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

   

  I understand your reasoning there; what I don't understand is how enlarging the dots and making them bright white would make putting easier.  They actually only serve to obscure the line and distract the player.  Putting wasn't broken and didn't need fixing.

  Makes it easier to read the break.  This is especially true with longer putts.  I remember when I first started playing, I would have a 40 foot put and I would just say screw it I have no idea which way this ball is going to go!  So aim at the middle of the hole and pray lol

  - WGTdbloshoe

• jsweetcr 1,209 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:21 PM

  WGTdbloshoe:

  3 things are happening on March 1st.... 2 good and one Blah

  Happy Birthday to me! Ya!!

• royphillips1 1,278 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:22 PM

  in my opinion you are messing up this game  by makeing changes where changes are just not needed l for one find this new grid impossible to use 

• 9,041 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:23 PM

  WGTdbloshoe:

  Only if you send WGTIcon some pink vapor balls on Saturday LOL

  Sent him some......guess he still won't love me lol

  Any chance of a WGT response to my last post ?

  Still not shooting the messenger Shoe

  EDIT:  sent him a sleeve o L90 blacks he using  

  xxx Ic :-))

• Mushy01 2,567 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:27 PM

  Could the larger dots not have been implicated to the starters and low levels and as you rise through the ranks, they decrease in size to what they were? That way, new starters and lower level would be happy and even the old hands would have nothing to complain about.

  Maybe even the option in settings to have one or the other.

  Too simple maybes?

• 2,840 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:27 PM

  alcaucin:

  WGTdbloshoe:

  Only if you send WGTIcon some pink vapor balls on Saturday LOL

  Sent him some......guess he still won't love me lol

  Any chance of a WGT response to my last post ?

  Still not shooting the messenger Shoe

  EDIT:  sent him a sleeve o L90 blacks he using  

  xxx Ic :-))

  Which post?  Got a few up in this thread lol

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

• 2,840 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:28 PM

  Mushy01:

  Could the larger dots not have been implicated to the starters and low levels and as you rise through the ranks, they decrease in size to what they were? That way, new starters and lower level would be happy and even the old hands would have nothing to complain about.

  Maybe even the option in settings to have one or the other.

  Too simple maybes?

  I have that noted down to discuss.  It is a simple idea that would make sense. 

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

• 9,041 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:31 PM

  alcaucin:

  WGTdbloshoe:

  alcaucin:

  WGTdbloshoe:

  It is a fine line that has to be walked between new players and older players.  New players need the game to be enjoyable and not so frustrating that they quite after a couple of rounds.  This seemed like a way to not make any drastic changes to the game, but do something that could make it easier for someone new.

  WE found this game a grind at the start but WE persevered..

  Don't pander to the plebs with no staying power Just to grab a few $ ?

  Surely a loyal customer base is a must ?

  That said, every business needs new influx of cash but to start off with the premise to appease newbies is...phfffft

  More sign ups since the marriage with Golf Channel ?

  It won't last, honeymoon period is all...( it's a finite well to drink from )

  Look after the stalwarts who play through thick and thin, whatever you do every month !!

  This has nothing to do with Golf Channel.  This has to do with growing a game and a product.  Relying on existing players is a recipe for disaster.  Look at some of the other game companies out there.  King Games, Candy Crush, derives 80% of their revenue from one game.  What happens when people get bored of the game?  You have to continue to grow your game, grow your users, and grow the options that they have. Look I get a lot of the older players are upset about the change.  That being said it really is a minor change and one that won't effect your game much.  Give it a chance.  Maybe it grows on you.

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

  WGTdbloshoe:

  This has nothing to do with Golf Channel.  This has to do with growing a game and a product.  Relying on existing players is a recipe for disaster.  Look at some of the other game companies out there.  King Games, Candy Crush, derives 80% of their revenue from one game. 

   

  Agreed, I'm saying that more import is being put on new players that maybe less than 5% will continue over 6 months ?

  WGTdbloshoe:

  What happens when people get bored of the game?

  Which 90+ % will ?

  WGTdbloshoe:

  Look I get a lot of the older players are upset about the change.  That being said it really is a minor change and one that won't effect your game much.  Give it a chance.  Maybe it grows on you.

  I am not upset, the changes you have made might've cost me 1 shot a round, until I found a work around..I could set the meter at my desired strength, let meter run. shut my eyes and STILL hit close enough to the ding line to putt most under 4ft !!

  The point I was making was relying on existing players is a no no, but, alienating them is a no no too ?

  Also because those games folded by having one income stream, doesn't then make WGTBaseball the way to go, as I guess WGT.Com are finding to their cost ?

  Andy

   

  This one Shoe..

  It seems you are inundated !  lol

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, Feb 26 2014 3:33 PM

  WGTdbloshoe:

  Makes it easier to read the break.  This is especially true with longer putts.  I remember when I first started playing, I would have a 40 foot put and I would just say screw it I have no idea which way this ball is going to go!  So aim at the middle of the hole and pray lol

  Personally I never remember caring.  I do understand the need for growth, and if some one thinks this may help it's revenue neutral for me as I don't care.  In time others may just get used to it.

  I still simply do not get:

  1. ID Verification

  How is WGT possibly in a position to check this stuff in any meaningful way.  Are you in compliance with any official guidelines???

  2. Privacy

  What can WGT do to convince me that my information is safe.  How is this an unreasonable question.  In Australia (will be very similar in the USA) if you are in finance you need to comply with this type of thing ASIC. What does WGT comply with.

  Without the above the $7 a sleeve and gifting is just short term swag bag filling to me, and several reading these threads.  It's not personally having a go at you to ask how a company is managing this, and just saying ID needed to gift is not enough at best. Not personal and reasonable questions???