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The Hole You Hate The Most.....?

Thu, Jan 27 2011 8:56 AM (83 replies)
  • Doublemochaman
    2,009 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 10:27 AM

    I agree with NeilDiamond... the 14th at Kiawah.  An unattractive hole with that green sitting up high and rolling off on all sides.  it's like tossing a martini olive from your kitchen counter to a nearby bar stool and getting it to stop.

  • tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 10:27 AM

    I do get it right sometimes.....

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    I have to say I love the 15th on Bethpage, a great hole where anything can happen. The 9th on Oakmont is just brutal. Aim for the bunker and hope your 3rd rolls back into the hole from the sand :^)

  • Script
    621 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 10:55 AM

    Doublemochaman:

    I agree with NeilDiamond... the 14th at Kiawah.  An unattractive hole with that green sitting up high and rolling off on all sides.  it's like tossing a martini olive from your kitchen counter to a nearby bar stool and getting it to stop.

    The 9th at Oakmont....just had to point out the waste of a good olive, DMM....

  • Doublemochaman
    2,009 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 11:25 AM

    Unless, of course, that olive rolls off the bar stool into a chilled glass of good gin and a bit of vermouth.

  • SweetiePie
    4,925 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 12:52 PM

    All of the holes mentioned are great tests. From the Legend tees, however, SA #17 is no slouch. I believe it  is around 500 yards, hitting the fairway is luck, hitting the green a miracle and putting the tournament speed green is adorably grim. All it takes is great gin, great vermouth (5 to 1 ratio is best) a large, perfect olive and an 1/8th tsp of the olive juice...yum!

  • Yappy22
    733 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 1:07 PM

    Sounds like a bad couple of days at old #17.  I had the same problem awhile back.  Soooooooo I made sure I hit it left and long for awhile. seemed to have worked as I have not hit a ball in the water for quite sometime. Now I try not to hit to fine a shot.  GOOD LUCK.

  • Doublemochaman
    2,009 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 1:19 PM

    Ahh, that would be a dirty martini for SP at SA #17.  That should loosen up your swing and your attitude. Not that your attitude had any problems before.  "Adorably grim" = superb combo of words to pefectly denote the situation.

  • CharlemagneRH
    1,054 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 1:54 PM

    MJS74:
    Bethpage #5 - can't stop it on the green under any circumstances

    I don't remember what hole that is, but there's a lot of holes like that on the F9.  I do remember, as an example, that hole #9 is like that.  Don't worry about it.  Bounce it on the green and send it into the rough behind the green, and when you learn to chip/pitch better, you will never make worse than par.  When you can chip/pitch almost as well as you can putt, you can start nabbing some birdies on those holes.

    Of course, these are pretty much everybody's least favorite holes, but...

    #1 OAK 9
    #2 ST A 17
    #3 BP 15

    With BP 15 there is at least a chance you can birdie it, and par isn't too hard even from the legend tees.  On championship greens, though, this might rocket up to #1 because I'm not even sure you can make an putt attempt at the hole on champ greens without sliding back down the hill 5-10 ft.  I know my putts on tournie greens have trickled backwards for 5-6 seconds, but so slow that they only came back a foot or so.  I imagine they keep going on champ greens, and much faster.

    ST A 17 has gone from hard to redonkulous.  I usually just try to send it into the right rough and work from there, but lately I've been finding the left rough/bunker, which is a bad place to be.

    And Oakmont 9 is absolute hell.  The approach is what now?  200 yards?  And there is almost no chance of getting it near the hole... at least with 17, you have the chance of an easy hole position to the right or curling it on the green around the sand trap... but there is no chance of that on Oakmont #9, and the green is almost as ridiculous as BP15, but you're usually starting from a 25-50 ft putt instead of a 10-15 footer like on BP 15.

  • MJS74
    341 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 2:38 PM

    CharlemagneRH:
    when you learn to chip/pitch better, you will never make worse than par. 

    Slightly patronising comment.  Although I'd like to think it was well intentioned rather than anything more crass.

     

  • CharlemagneRH
    1,054 Posts
    Tue, Sep 21 2010 3:31 PM

    MJS74:

    CharlemagneRH:
    when you learn to chip/pitch better, you will never make worse than par. 

    Slightly patronising comment.  Although I'd like to think it was well intentioned rather than anything more crass.

    People who've mastered their chips/pitches are not worried about being 8-15 yards from the hole, just off the green in the rough.  It's not really a situation that should fill you with dread.

    If you do dread it, your chips/pitches need work.  That's not an attempt at being patronizing, but merely a fact!

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