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Another WGT feature that makes my blood boil

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 5:29 AM

  alosso:

  In all fairness, you pay a lot for golf IRL...

  Start with the equipment, garment, shoes, gloves. Next, you spend gas driving to the course, pay an entry fee - probably not less than 10 $, mostly a lot more. And you pay for your balls which you may find in the rough sometimes, but often you lose them or discard them due to wear.

  What are you saying? You mean, I can't go down to my local pro shop, watch some videos, answer some questions on a survey, and then they give me a bunch of money to spend in their shop to buy top-level golf equipment? 
  
  That's crazy! It should all be free... whatever I want, I don't understand why it doesn't work that way everywhere.
  
  Strange times we live in.  

• alosso 21,070 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 6:02 AM

  ROTFL!

  Robert1893:

  You mean, I can't go down to my local pro shop

  I can't - it's 15 miles away. I need some promotional benefits to "go" there. Don't you have any codes for me? No matter if used or unused, *psst!* I know some backdoor keys!

• JasCooper 528 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 7:41 AM

  It's a matter of comparison. The 6th hole at Congressional is surrounded by manmade water. If you're playing on the mobile app, you get bad camera angles. It's easy to miss. If your ball is on its last hits, no big deal. But if you just put a new ball in play, it could be worth a couple of bucks (wgt cost). 

  That could be half the cost of a new club. 

  If you're playing BoP5, chances are you're using a ball with extra distance and more expensive. If you're a pitch away, missing the ding could be the difference between ending in the water or next to the hole.

  I just don't think a game decision should be based on the cost of a single shot.

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 8:01 AM

  JasCooper:

  The 6th hole at Congressional is surrounded by manmade water. If you're playing on the mobile app, you get bad camera angles. It's easy to miss.

  
  
  I have no idea what you're talking about there.
  
  The 6th at Congressional is fairly straightforward, presenting no real issues with camera angles of possible landing areas. I think the best way to play that hole is to layup to a decent number, put a wedge close, take your birdie, and move on. See below. Just play the hole smart.
  
  And I do play on the mobile app. I think it's one of the easiest layups there is, and the green is very receptive to a decent wedge shot.
  
  https://everyplay.com/videos/30714329 

• K7JBQ 1,468 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 8:46 AM

  Congressional 6 is a wonderful hole, a classic "risk/reward."

  I make my choice based on yardage and wind. It's a great eagle hole when conditions permit, and, as Robert says, an easy birdie hole if you lay up and hit wedge.

  When the choice is dicey, yeah, then I check how many hits are left on the ball.

• phred952 2,714 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 8:49 AM

  Robert1893:

  JasCooper:

  The 6th hole at Congressional is surrounded by manmade water. If you're playing on the mobile app, you get bad camera angles. It's easy to miss.

  
  
  I have no idea what you're talking about there.
  
  The 6th at Congressional is fairly straightforward, presenting no real issues with camera angles of possible landing areas. I think the best way to play that hole is to layup to a decent number, put a wedge close, take your birdie, and move on. See below. Just play the hole smart.
  
  And I do play on the mobile app. I think it's one of the easiest layups there is, and the green is very receptive to a decent wedge shot.
  
  https://everyplay.com/videos/30714329 

  Sorry Jas,

  I have to agree with Robert.  That is a hugh risk/reward hole.  If you are losing balls going for the green in two, you are falling into the trap, so to speak.  The safe way to go for the green on #6 @ CCC is with a tail wind.  You need to have properly mapped your clubs and know the carry distance of the selected club.

  It's like the first Par 5 on Bethpage Black.  It tempts you to shoot over the bunkers to the green.  But you either come up short and get to play in the sand, or you're long and can't hold the green, running off the other side.  Both reduce your chances of a birdie by a lot.

  phred952

• cadornette 319 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 9:18 AM

  I know what you mean, but it's not about the game itself. It's about the way WE learn it., A couple of years ago, i would aim my shots considering the distance to the pin. But you have to know, that from fairway, most of the times, you gotta hit it a little bit more. EG: 30 yards shot, no elevation and water in front of you. I would go for a punch shot of 37. The "realism" of the game takes aways a couple of yards when you hit the ball. Even more when it's a short distance shot. You don't give the ball the time to fly. I hope it helps., Bye

• 1,866 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 2:24 PM

  phred952:

  It's like the first Par 5 on Bethpage Black.  It tempts you to shoot over the bunkers to the green.  But you either come up short and get to play in the sand, or you're long and can't hold the green, running off the other side.  Both reduce your chances of a birdie by a lot.

  I hate to disagree with you on this, but I'll do it anyway ;-) 

  #4 is a much easier birdie, if you shoot for the green. Played correctly (full bs, adding about 20y of power to stated distance in side wind, adjusted for other wind), you should end up a yard or 2 off the green. From there you have an easy pitch to a flat surface (unlike when playing from the right and short), which is in fact a decent eagle chance. There are a few spots (long and a bit to the right), where all you need to do is ding the pitch, it's totally straight, all you need is the correct power and a ding. Although, I haven't had more than a couple of dings (or even close to 1) per round, since my PC broke down in the beginning of October :-(

  The only thing you need to worry about, when going for the green, is not landing on the green before the hole. There's a nasty slope, which can make your ball shoot far away. But the bunker in front of the green is an easy out, the 10-15% lie is easy, just play a full bs flop with the correct power and you should end up not more than 5-6 feet from the hole.

  Of course, the above only goes, if both your clubs and balls have a decent amount of spin ;-)

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 3:07 PM

  mkrizan86:

  #4 is a much easier birdie, if you shoot for the green. Played correctly (full bs, adding about 20y of power to stated distance in side wind, adjusted for other wind), you should end up a yard or 2 off the green. From there you have an easy pitch to a flat surface (unlike when playing from the right and short), which is in fact a decent eagle chance.

  
  
  I agree that what you write here is doaable, given proper clubs and balls. But the problem is that, if I recall correctly, you can go out of bounds long.
  
  I still prefer to hit to the right of the green and try to put a wedge close for birdie. But I admit that every once in a while, if conditions are very favorable, I'll play the hole like you suggest. Still, in all the times I've played it that way, I've only come away with one eagle. And that was fluke holeout because I was in the rough past the green.  

• fatdan 3,379 Posts

  Fri, Nov 18 2016 3:18 PM

  I get mad too when I lose a ball in the water, at least I used to until I figured out the solution....

  The solution is "don't get anywhere near the water, and when you do or can't avoid it, make 100% sure you don't hit into it!"

  Try it, it works!!

  I play #4 at BPB both ways depending on the pin placement...can't remember tha last time I didn't birdie it.