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Another WGT feature that makes my blood boil

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 1:04 PM

  JasCooper:

  Perhaps there is a difference of opinion regarding why people play WGT golf. I ONLY play for amusement. And I play on an iPad with the mobile app. I don't have slick features that show distances to bunkers or water hazards. Or cameras to show different angles. On some shots, I can't even move the marker to a spot I need to avoid a tree or see the breaks on a green

  Then you don't know how to use the app because on the iPad version, it is possible to see the distance to a bunker or hazard and there are different camera angles available. And I've never had a single shot that I couldn't move the marker. By the way, I play almost exclusively on an iPad.

   

  JasCooper:

  Now, I'm not a golfer; but in the real game does 5 sleeves of decent balls cost more than a top quality driver; and wear out after a few rounds?

  No, in real life, 5 sleeves of balls don't cost the same as a top quality driver. The top quality driver costs many times that amount. And yes, balls can wear out after a few rounds, depending on how hard they are struck. For example, see here: 
  
  http://www.golfdigest.com/story/hotlist_howlong

   

  JasCooper:

  It bothers me when I have to hit a shot 20 yards short of a little creek running across the fairway because an expensive ball has some mysterious attraction to water. I'm not talking about avoiding a cliff where any ball would be lost. 

  This is just incorrect and makes no sense. The ball doesn't have an attraction to water simply because you paid for it. 

   

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 1:09 PM

  PaulTon:

  That sounds horrible to play! 

  
  
  If it were true, it would be. Of course, it's not; so, it isn't.  :-)  

• Disthedon 26 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 3:30 PM

  I totally agree with most of what your saying about the water hazard ,

  take the first at St. Andrews into the water hazard , you could fall in and pick your Nike ball out , and then  carry on, but as you say by the time your hit the 2nd hole a sleeve could have gone, you then carry on with the WGT ball, that's a waste of time.

  Simple answer when a ball can be recovered like above they should supply a ball

  retriever for 10 coins or 5 credits ? then hit the ball to death, sound's fairer.?

   

   

• lonniescott711 4,206 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 4:58 PM

  MainzMan:

  JasCooper:

  You can't switch balls mid-round. 

  I think the problem is you appear to say you did so in your first post:

  JasCooper:

  You're playing a game and get to a shot near water. It's a crucial game so you put the starter balls aside and break out the 500 credit Nikes.

  And get to a shot near water.  This is the dodgy line here.  It suggests you were playing a round with starter balls then had a crucial shot so swapped to Nikes.  Clearly this wasn't the case though, you presumably started the round with them as it was an important one.  I can see how people jumped to the conclusion they apparently did.

  JasCooper:

  And, I don't know what others do, but I'm not using a sleeve of 500 credit balls for every round I play. 

  That's why I use 250 credit Callaways.  I see no point in playing different balls for different rounds, you won't be confident of getting the result you expect when you really need it.  And changing gear can mess with your game settings, resulting in shots such as you described.

  All so true . I will use the rock when I just want to play a round or a few holes . Usually its just a practice round so the scoring doesnt matter as I just want to hit some balls . But I have used the rock playing ranked rounds and posted decent scores as well .

  Playing practice rounds with 500 credit balls can get very expensive no arguement there but its also expensive with 250 credit balls too . So depending on how much you play will depend on the costs to you . I play the Callys and for the most part they are the most cost effective ball in the game .

   

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 6:32 PM

  Disthedon:

  take the first at St. Andrews into the water hazard , you could fall in and pick your Nike ball out , and then  carry on, but as you say by the time your hit the 2nd hole a sleeve could have gone

  3  balls lost into the Swilken burn on the first hole at St. Andrews?!

  Whose playing this round, Stevie Wonder?

• JasCooper 528 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 8:00 PM

  lonniescott711:

  I think the problem is you appear to say you did so in your first post:

  JasCooper:

  You're playing a game and get to a shot near water. It's a crucial game so you put the starter balls aside and break out the 500 credit Nikes.

  And get to a shot near water.  This is the dodgy line here.  It suggests you were playing a round with starter balls then had a crucial shot so swapped to Nikes.  Clearly this wasn't the case though, you presumably started the round with them as it was an important one.  I can see how people jumped to the conclusion they apparently did.

  If you know that you can't change balls mid round it should be possible to figure out I chose to use the Nikes before I started play. 

  I have several types of balls that I use depending on my mood or the game. If a tournament is single play I don't use starter balls. If it's unlimited play I may use starter balls, or, depending on the course, a cheap ball that adds distance or spin. 

  Perhaps it seems like sheer coincidence, but until I played a 500 credit ball, hitting it in the bush on whatever hole it is on St. A, it never came up 'Lost Ball' if I was a couple of yards off the fairway.

  And this is a game. The only money I play for are those worthless silver coins. So there are several logical solutions. Let a player pay some fee to retrieve a ball in a conceivably accessible location, as someone suggested. Especially when the difference could be between a ball that's almost used up vs. one that you just put into play. Sell balls for silver coins instead of valuable credits (I have almost a million coins that are only good for betting on games that offer little reward. Or renting mediocre clubs for a week; clubs you can't even buy). 

  As for the app being horrible, it isn't at all. I think the graphics are superior to the browser version. But it lacks a lot of the information and options of the browser game. In fact, they're really two almost completely different games. Games I've been told can't even be played between those on a tablet and on a PC in many situations. 

  We're all entitled to our opinions. I've offered mine. I'd also like to have an option to take a timeout while playing a ranked round. Essentially being able to save a shot (lie) for later practice. So you can see what would happen if you used a different club or shot from the exact same location and conditions. Or in addition to being able to 'friend' a player right after a game, making it just as easy to block one who forfeits because they hit one bad shot. 

• Robert1893 7,719 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 8:17 PM

  JasCooper:

  So there are several logical solutions.

  
  
  You forgot to list one solution:
  
  Don't hit it in the water hazard or out of bounds. :-) 
  
  I get it. Lost balls are an irritant. But virtually every ball I ever hit out of bounds or into a water hazard and had taken out of play was my own fault, not the game. I think I've lost two balls that were a "what the heck just happened there!?!? moments" And on one of them, I submitted the issue to customer service and they gave me a sleeve as a replacement.  
  
  By the way, on the iPad, if you're in a ranked round and close out the app, the round will still be there when you relaunch the app. It will then prompt you to resume the round or forfeit.  

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Fri, Oct 14 2016 9:51 PM

  WGT are in a capitalist, for profit, business sector.  Unless anyone can unequivocally convince them that changing at much cost (think about that) will increase their revenue, then it's no dice.

  Playing different balls = confusion / frustration, not the games fault.  Over and over get used to one ball / club combo and for a reason........The only thing funny (as in funny peculiar) about it is how on earth does some one think different after twice let alone being told over and over, and still..........It's not hard.  

  Playing an important game your best ball is the one you understand most, and that is because there is no voodoo magic to be had....In fact higher the attributes you go the more a poor play gets shown up = more water....Easy stuff???????????????

  Practice is for ....well it's for practice.  All the mulligans you want all day long.

  RRs is where you take that and see how good you have got.  

  Heck even red tees count as RRs.  With (effectively) mulligans in RRs the red tee brigade would have even browner chocolate badges......

  Learn to play properly, and keep within sensible expectations.

  No change needed or wanted............IMO !

   

   

• B1gert 31 Posts

  Sat, Oct 15 2016 4:23 PM

  JasCooper:

  Come on, WGT. Why do you have to make it so I've got to hit my shot 10 yards from the hole so I don't lose it? And the fact is, if I hit the exact same shot with a starter ball, it probably would land where I aimed it, and not like there was a ball magnet sucking my expensive Nike out of play.

  I couldnt resist in a comment on this one,, lol,, in my game play with a STARTER BALL ?? hell they never go where you hit them , really lmao.

  i would think that once you find a ball that works well with your clubs from each level,, yes go find that ball and never swap , each level advancement as a WGT player and change of new clubs you need to find THAT ball that works with that club set,, and when you do why the hell would you use another ball ????? crazy man no wonder your game play is out of whack lmao

  Just my 2 bobs worth 

• dchallenger 545 Posts

  Sat, Oct 15 2016 5:31 PM

  Jimbog1964:

  WGT are in a capitalist, for profit, business sector.  Unless anyone can unequivocally convince them that changing at much cost (think about that) will increase their revenue, then it's no dice.

  Playing different balls = confusion / frustration, not the games fault.  Over and over get used to one ball / club combo and for a reason........The only thing funny (as in funny peculiar) about it is how on earth does some one think different after twice let alone being told over and over, and still..........It's not hard.  

  Playing an important game your best ball is the one you understand most, and that is because there is no voodoo magic to be had....In fact higher the attributes you go the more a poor play gets shown up = more water....Easy stuff???????????????

  Practice is for ....well it's for practice.  All the mulligans you want all day long.

  RRs is where you take that and see how good you have got.  

  Heck even red tees count as RRs.  With (effectively) mulligans in RRs the red tee brigade would have even browner chocolate badges......

  Learn to play properly, and keep within sensible expectations.

  No change needed or wanted............IMO !

   

   

  Huh?