Forums

Help › Forums

Forums » Product Discussions » Product Suggestions » Another WGT feature that makes my blood boil

Another WGT feature that makes my blood boil

rated by 0 users

Thu, Nov 24 2016 12:36 AM (89 replies)

PAGES

First

K7JBQ

1,468 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 8:31 AM

JasCooper:

Penalties for water hazards should be in strokes, not dollars.

if you take a different shot if you ball is down to the last hit then you would if the ball is new, the system is flawed.

I guess in real golf you are not allowed to swap balls mid-game, so that is not a solution.

But the decision should be to take a safe shot to avoid a penalty, or risk a penalty. Not risk a penalty and a $2 ball.

A ball retrieval fee isn't a bad idea. Then you won't alter your game based on the age of the ball in play.

Allow me to disagree. Here, as in real golf, the cost of hitting the ball into the water is the same: penalty and lost ball (except the close ones you can fish out with a retriever).

In real golf, there are times I "go for it" using an older ball. These are "on a wing and a prayer" shots, which are usually stupid but we all do it from time to time. Same on WGT; since we don't have the option of taking out an older ball that probably should have been retired already, checking the ball life remaining before a risky shot is one of the factors that reasonably comes into the concept of risk/reward.

PhilEStein

1,269 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 9:30 AM

JasCooper:

Penalties for water hazards should be in strokes, not dollars.

Strokes = dollars : Key being the player with fewer strokes at the end of the tournament wins the dollars

if you take a different shot if you ball is down to the last hit then you would if the ball is new, the system is flawed.

As is your English comprehension and thinking.

I guess in real golf you are not allowed to swap balls mid-game, so that is not a solution.

Wrong, you are.

But the decision should be to take a safe shot to avoid a penalty, or risk a penalty. Not risk a penalty and a $2 ball.

The alternative is to learn how to play the game sufficiently well enough as to avoid such negative thinking and wanting to change rules that the other 99.9% find satisfactory and abide to.

A ball retrieval fee isn't a bad idea. Then you won't alter your game based on the age of the ball in play.

Is not a fee paid in dollars which then contradicts your first statement?

Best advice is to stop all the crying as all you'll do is to make the water deeper and inevitably wider.

phred952

2,714 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 10:16 AM

+1 K7JBQ.

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

It comes down to course management and risk analysis. While the variables of distance, wind speed and direction, lie and location of the ball will slightly change the outcome, this quote still comes into play.

Unless you are a top player and can hit your shots with certainty every time, the chance of minute errors enter into the picture. Even then VEM, and the circle of precision enter into the mix. Not to mention the occasional WTF shot.

FWIW, if I have a shot at the green in 2, but I am not certain I can land in the area I want, I will lay up or play the the left side of the green. I may end up on the green at 30 or 40 ft away, but i have a chance for an eagle with a long putt.

If the people venting here feel better when they finish thats fine. But we all know that WGT isn't going to change the way this part of the game plays. So suck it up and learn a better way.

Finally remember that in the game at WGT, magnetism plays a fundamental part. In MP or AS, a bad shot always seems to attract the ball of the next player. Water seems to attract balls the way a magnet attracts iron and steel particles.

Think of it as part of Murphy's Law, that anything bad will happen. Then play accordingly.

phred952

Jimbog1964

8,378 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 10:35 AM

Better players do not go in the water much................OK A/S might see it a bit more from them if the ball is red as why not take the risk they might think. Note they know they are taking the risk.

Risk v reward same as IRL, no point whinging when it does not come off............

Robert1893

7,719 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 11:21 AM

phred952:

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

It comes down to course management and risk analysis. While the variables of distance, wind speed and direction, lie and location of the ball will slightly change the outcome, this quote still comes into play.

For me, it's not water holes but particular holes that get me. The one that immediately comes to mind is the par 3, 13th hole at Oakmont. Every single time, I want to go at that hole location.

But a good portion of the time, I miss it right and end up in the bunker and say to myself "You dummy. Just put it out to the left of the pin, two putt, and take your par."

Especially out of that bunker, it's almost impossible to save par. In fact, I've only saved par once, and that took a miracle putt. Still, I bet next time I play it, I'll think "I can get it in there this time." :-)

Robert1893

7,719 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 11:28 AM

JasCooper:

Penalties for water hazards should be in strokes, not dollars.

if you take a different shot if you ball is down to the last hit then you would if the ball is new, the system is flawed.

But the decision should be to take a safe shot to avoid a penalty, or risk a penalty. Not risk a penalty and a $2 ball.

While I haven't been able to play golf (IRL) for quite some time, after losing a ball out of bounds that was not retrievable, I can never remember thinking, "Boy, that just cost me two dollars" (or whatever the ball cost).

My reaction always was, "Well, don't do that again."

It's inherent in the game. I mean, you get that, correct? This is a serious question: Have you ever played golf in real life and not virtual?

fatdan

3,379 Posts

Sat, Nov 19 2016 11:37 AM

The fact is if you hit a ball in the water you lose a ball and it isn't going to change "EVER"...so deal with it because WGT could care less what your opinion is on the matter!

For the record, since March 2008